I think I need a new shorter stemI have a 90mm one now but still unable to ride comfortably in ths drops I could get a new shallower bar but I think a stem swap is cheaper and easier. But is there such thing as to short of a stem?

I would question your frame size choice if you need to go shorter than 90.

shorter stems are out there but you may be compensating for a frame that is too big. can we get more details on you and your bike?

sadly I think the frame is to big.....also to new and to costly so I am stuck. I tend to ride on the top of the bars and the hoods feels great but just a tad to long for a comfy drop ride.....I am just trying to make it a better fit

there are some good cheap frames out there. what kind of bike do you have? you may be able to buy a frame and sell your old one for little or no investment.

Bianchi C2C all 105

here it is

https://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...c-105-08-28019

well you could easily get a cheaper frame and sell that one for profit. it may not be as nice, but you would have a bike that fits and some money for a future build or upgrades.

If you are comfortable on the tops and the hoods, but not in the drops - I'd say a shallow compact bar is going to be a better solution than shortening the stem.

zero setback seatpost and long-railed saddle like an Arione to move you forward?

It will affect control to a certain extent though you will be able to adjust with time. I ride with an extremely short stem due to too large a frame.

I have 3 road bikes and a CX bike used on the road at various sizes. One 54 cm, 2 55 CMs, and a 56 CM. All are setup for the same saddle height, saddle to BB offset, saddle to handlebar reach, etc. With the varied geometry of each frame I've had to use quite the variety of stems. I'm even running a short 70 or 75 on the one bike. I really don't notice a difference in terms of handling for the most part. If I've been riding one bike primarily and then take out another I may notice a difference for the first 5 minutes or so and then never notice it again for the remainder of the ride no matter how hard I am going. A bike's handling is affected by so many factors and I believe stem length is just one of the many variables and by itself is not that big of a deal. Just my two cents, take it for what it's worth.

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...Saddle-Setback

if you need a short stem, use a short stem.

I'm using a 50 or 60mm on mine and it doesn't seem to affect handling much at all.
the steering precision, which affects the handling, is all in the rider.

now, if you're changing castor angle or wheel base, then that will affect how the bike handles.

So what you are saying is that it's not the length of the stem so much as it is how you use it?

A very short stem does affect handling, trust me on this.

+1. Look for a handlebar that's short front-to-back (reach) and shallow top to bottom (drop). That can be the equivalent of a 10-20mm shorter stem right there.

Did you buy that bike brand new or used?

I'm assuming used and you thought it was too good of a deal to pass up. That thing's a beauty but too bad it's the wrong size.

Anyone have any recommendations for bars of this type? I've been considering some short drop / short reach bars also. I'm thinking about the FSA Omega, but I'm sure there are others.

The cheap aluminum bars that came with my Roubaix are like that. Just a Specialized house brand. Could probably have the LBS order a "replacement" set from them. Stroll the bikes on the floor, spot a set you like, and see if the shop will order a set from the manufacturer.

I have riden the same frame with 90, 60 and now 45 mm stems. I have not had or noticed any handling issues or changes in handling. As I have shortened the stem I have improved my position and comfort on long rides in all positions on the bars. If I had a frame with 62 or 63 cm seat tube and 55 cm top tube I would use a 90 or 100 mm stem. But, until then my 63 cm frame and 45 mm stem work pretty well.

Yeah, ok. That must look ridiculous.

I had the same problem and didnt want to go for an 80mm stem (have 90mm) so I got the Zipp SL short and shallow bars and that did the trick. When I got fitted the guy said I have a shorter than normal torso....

pics?

I want pics too