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Brian Ratliff 02-15-12 02:32 AM

Remember the epic Trek bottom bracket thread?
 
Considering a used Trek?

Add another data point. My 2007 5.2 Madone started creaking last summer something awful. The cause didn't present at that time and I tried everything to get rid of the creak; both myself and the local shop where I bought the bike went through more than one round of tightening/swapping components to isolate the creak with no success.

Today the cause finally presented itself: the bottom bracket shell is detached from the frame on the driveside. Fortunately, I am the first owner. Now I get to test the fabled trek warranty.

Bob Dopolina 02-15-12 02:48 AM

If it is a lifetime warranty and you are the original owner it should be covered without a problem.

zazenzach 02-15-12 02:53 AM

sorry about that.

but this just further convinces me that steel is real and that i'll never go carbon.

nealjoslyn 02-15-12 02:56 AM


Originally Posted by zazenzach (Post 13853806)
sorry about that.

but this just further convinces me that steel is real and that i'll never go carbon.

:rolleyes:

znomit 02-15-12 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina (Post 13853800)
If it is a lifetime warranty and you are the original owner it should be covered without a problem.

Its only warrantied for life against defects.

Everyone knows carbon spontaneously explodes for no reason, its a feature, not a defect. :rolleyes:

Bob Dopolina 02-15-12 03:26 AM

^^^Funny, I think it was the alloy sleeve bonded inside the carbon that failed and not the carbon itself.

IIRC the problem was the bonding agent and not the carbon/resin.

zazenzach 02-15-12 03:36 AM

rolling your eyes does not negate the fact that carbon is inferior to steel in virtually every way, and that the industry is cornered by carbon because of marketing ploys

come at me bros

Adrianinkc 02-15-12 05:43 AM

Original owner is covered don't worry about it.

datlas 02-15-12 05:53 AM

Slim must be sleeping.

Let us know how the warranty strategy works for you.

thump55 02-15-12 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by zazenzach (Post 13853838)
rolling your eyes does not negate the fact that carbon is inferior to steel in virtually every way, and that the industry is cornered by carbon because of marketing ploys

come at me bros

Ahh yes. "Virtually" being used again by people who are aren't quite convinced they are 100% right, or who in fact, know for sure there is at least one flaw in their argument.

Bob Dopolina 02-15-12 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by zazenzach (Post 13853838)
rolling your eyes does not negate the fact that carbon is inferior to steel in virtually every way, and that the industry is cornered by carbon because of marketing ploys

come at me bros

Weak.

echotraveler 02-15-12 07:21 AM

They will cover it, youll get a brand spanking new frame. A seed of doubt about the brand has been planted in your brain. :(

topflightpro 02-15-12 07:53 AM

They should cover it. I have two friends who have had this same issue. One has gone through three or four frames in the last wo to three years - Trek keeps replacing them. The other only one.

pallen 02-15-12 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by zazenzach (Post 13853838)
rolling your eyes does not negate the fact that carbon is inferior to steel in virtually every way, and that the industry is cornered by carbon because of marketing ploys

come at me bros

:lol: funny

Phil85207 02-15-12 08:13 AM

It good to see there are still companies that still stand behind there products.

ahsposo 02-15-12 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by zazenzach (Post 13853806)
sorry about that.

but this just further convinces me that steel is real and that i'll never go carbon.

This really, really disappoints. I guess I'll go back to bed. My day and maybe my week is ruined now.

ahsposo 02-15-12 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina (Post 13854101)
Stupid

ftfy.

Brian Ratliff 02-15-12 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by echotraveler (Post 13854122)
They will cover it, youll get a brand spanking new frame. A seed of doubt about the brand has been planted in your brain. :(

I know, right? Sucks because the bike is the first one I raced and it has sentimental value for me. I had always envisioned killing it with some cataclysmic race crash, not having it die quietly from a manufacturing defect.


Originally Posted by topflightpro (Post 13854216)
They should cover it. I have two friends who have had this same issue. One has gone through three or four frames in the last wo to three years - Trek keeps replacing them. The other only one.

This is good to hear. Leaves me wondering if this might have something to do with Trek's migration away from bonded alloy bottom bracket shells.

Brian Ratliff 02-15-12 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by zazenzach (Post 13853838)
rolling your eyes does not negate the fact that carbon is inferior to steel in virtually every way, and that the industry is cornered by carbon because of marketing ploys

come at me bros

Not every way. Longevity? Yes, steel wins. Weight? No, not by a long shot. Or it's early and I just got suckered by a troll.

Brian Ratliff 02-15-12 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina (Post 13853833)
^^^Funny, I think it was the alloy sleeve bonded inside the carbon that failed and not the carbon itself.

IIRC the problem was the bonding agent and not the carbon/resin.

Correct, as far as I can tell. Though it is possible the carbon around the bond failed, rather than the bond itself. No way to tell without getting the band saw out.

Hiro11 02-15-12 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff (Post 13854440)
Not every way. Longevity? Yes, steel wins.

Eh, maybe. My running coach still rides around on a 1989 Trek 2500 (alloy lugs, bonded carbon tubes) and it's fine. I have easily 10K miles on my 2005 Madone and it's structurally just fine. Steel can last basically forever, but there's a lot of heavily used carbon out there at this point...

NoTrail 02-15-12 09:14 AM

Hope everything works out for you.

Brian Ratliff 02-15-12 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Hiro11 (Post 13854480)
Eh, maybe. My running coach still rides around on a 1989 Trek 2500 (alloy lugs, bonded carbon tubes) and it's fine. I have easily 10K miles on my 2005 Madone and it's structurally just fine. Steel can last basically forever, but there's a lot of heavily used carbon out there at this point...

Mine blew up at about the 20-30k mile mark, so it might be just a matter of time. One thing unique to carbon is the number of glue bonds in the frame. A welded or brazed frame is basically a monolithic structure. A carbon frame is a bunch of pieces glued together. After this, anytime I see metals bonded to composites in a frame (something stiff -metal- bonded to something soft -carbon composite-), I will be skeptical about its ultimate longevity.

njkayaker 02-15-12 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 13853958)
Slim must be sleeping.

"Rust never sleeps."

njkayaker 02-15-12 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff (Post 13854426)
I had always envisioned killing it with some cataclysmic race crash, not having it die quietly from a manufacturing defect.

It looks like you are lucky!


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