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Old 02-17-12 | 02:11 PM
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carbon fork : expander plug install question

I try not to ask fredly questions, but I need some reassurance. I just installed a full carbon fork + FSA expander plug, but am still experiencing a rattle from the fork between the spacers.

Just so I have my install procedure correctly..
1) cut steerer
2) install crown race
3) install fork into frame
4) add spacers
5) hand tighten stem
6_ insert expander plug, torque inside bolt
7) add 5mm spacer
8) install top cap, torque
9) tighten stem

I then did more research and Specialized instructions specifically says that the there should not be a spacer between stem and top cap, but from the looks of it, the diameter of the topcap is smaller than the inside diameter of the stem (i.e., they wouldn't make contact).

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Old 02-17-12 | 02:15 PM
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it depends if there is any steerer sticking out above the stem. Although generally you want a bit sticking out (hence the spacer) to make sure the stem is clamping properly.
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Old 02-17-12 | 02:27 PM
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Don't tighten the stem before you tighten the expander plug.
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Old 02-17-12 | 02:40 PM
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Don't tighten the stem before you tighten the expander plug.
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Also, don't overtighten the expander plug. It only needs to be a shade over finger tight
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Old 02-17-12 | 02:52 PM
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Remove step 5.
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Remove step 5.
This. Once you tighten the stem, torquing the top cap will only tighten the top cap against the stem...the headset will not be loaded (tightened), hence the play.
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Also, when you've tightened the top cap, before you tighten the stem bolts, put on the front brake, and roll the bike forward, until the rear wheel lifts off the ground.

If there's a clunk, the headset is too loose. Conversely if the steering binds, its too tight.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Also, when you've tightened the top cap, before you tighten the stem bolts, put on the front brake, and roll the bike forward, until the rear wheel lifts off the ground.

If there's a clunk, the headset is too loose. Conversely if the steering binds, its too tight.
Damn. That's a pretty good tip. Thanks.
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Very good advice guys, thanks!

So let's say I wanted to remove the spacer above the stem, there is about 2mm gap from the top of the steerer to the top of the stem (the stem is higher). Is this the way it should be?
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Originally Posted by blcknspo0ln
Very good advice guys, thanks!

So let's say I wanted to remove the spacer above the stem, there is about 2mm gap from the top of the steerer to the top of the stem (the stem is higher). Is this the way it should be?
Depends on the shape of the top cap. As long as the top cap doesn't bottom out on the steerer tube as it is tightened you're good.

If the bottom of the cap is convex, that might not be enough room to where it won't hit the steerer tube.
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Yeah, some stem manufacturers say 3 mm or whatever, but the stem should be a bit higher than the steer tube (or have a spacer above the stem, depending on manuf).
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