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Old 03-26-12, 03:14 PM
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chiropractor?

I know some people who think chiropractors are quacks, but how many of you go to one and find positive results?
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I went...i'll tell you...bad idea...made me worse...I've been going to a spa and getting deep tissue massages and I find the release of tension around my back where my pain was has been relieved and i've been pain free ever since...I now go once a month. Cheaper too
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Old 03-26-12, 03:35 PM
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I do. Wonderful results!
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I have one that I've used for a number of issues. He helped heal them all and explained what I should do to head off future problems. Some are more interested in getting to be a regular, in for your two week adjustment. I think that those are the quacks.
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Originally Posted by rogerstg View Post
I have one that I've used for a number of issues. He helped heal them all and explained what I should do to head off future problems. Some are more interested in getting to be a regular, in for your two week adjustment. I think that those are the quacks.
I'm pretty sure thats what I had. I had an adjustment once by a guy in texas and i was pain free for months...I couldn't understand why this guy had me coming back for these tiny ass adjustments that had me hurting more at night
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Old 03-26-12, 03:58 PM
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I couldn't understand why this guy had me coming back for these tiny ass adjustments that had me hurting more at night
Just a wild guess, but he wasn't working for free, was he...?
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Old 03-26-12, 04:16 PM
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Just a wild guess, but he wasn't working for free, was he...?
the first guy who did my adjustment was free...it was a rich friends chiro and he was flown in just for her.
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Old 03-26-12, 04:18 PM
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I've been to two chriopractors. One made a lot of my bones pop and hooked me up to some cool vibrating back massager. He tried to get me to keep coming back. The issues I had when I started went away after two visits, so that was plenty for me. The other guy didn't pop so many bones but used some kind of machine that he claimed was "resetting" my core muscles. He didn't try to get me to keep coming back, and though he didn't come right out and say it, I interpreted what he told me as being basically "you need to strengthen your core muscles if you're going to ride that much."

The studies I've seen that follow usual scientific process have said something non-commital like "recovery after chiropractic care is no worse than the normal healing time." I feel like there probably are some things that can be helped by a good adjustment, but most things that I hear people going in for are likely muscle pulls that will heal with or without the chiropractor.

I'm having some lower back issue right now that I'm trying to self-treat with core strengthening. My wife thinks I should visit the chriopractor. Ask me again in a month or so.
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Originally Posted by foo fighter View Post
I do. Wonderful results!
+1. I go maybe once every couple of months, mostly for my running. I find that once I'm out of alignment, my running efficiency decrease; or vice versa, when my running efficiency/form decreases, I know I need an adjustment.
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My chiro does ART which is what he usually does for me. He also does that shock thing and ultrasound. He helped relieve pain in my knee and I'm in a treatment regiment right now for inflamed AT. I may have to take a break but an MRI may be the only way to find out. Trying to schedule an appt. this week.
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I always thought they were quacks, but it works for me so I go every 6 weeks. I do seem to be getting better. The guy I go to is really good and he apparently can figure out what is out of whack by feel. I find that pretty impressive since most chiropractors want to do xrays.
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I go. Will continue to go. Haven't had a cold since I started seeing a chiro five years ago.
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Originally Posted by blueduckxx View Post
I know some people who think chiropractors are quacks, but how many of you go to one and find positive results?
I have been to physiotherapists and had results that I would have happily paid 10x the price for a chiropractor to achieve.
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I always thought they were quacks, but it works for me so I go every 6 weeks. I do seem to be getting better. The guy I go to is really good and he apparently can figure out what is out of whack by feel. I find that pretty impressive since most chiropractors want to do xrays.
It's amazing what you can pretend to cure for people who believe it.

While it's certainly true that some symptoms can be treated by manipulation of joints and muscles - physical therapists do the same thing, the field of chiropractic is based on the idea that a "misaligned" spine causes nerve signals to have trouble traveling from the brain. Many chiropractors believe that they can cure diseases, even cancer, by manipulating your spine. (The founder of the field claimed 95% of all diseases) This is complete and utter bull****.

If you feel comfortable allowing the equivalent of a witch doctor with little real medical training to perform what is essentially physical therapy on you, go right ahead, though. Just be aware that they have seriously injured people before.
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Old 03-26-12, 06:28 PM
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I've had great results with the chiro. Also with deep tissue massages.
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Originally Posted by kleinboogie View Post
My chiro does ART which is what he usually does for me. He also does that shock thing and ultrasound. He helped relieve pain in my knee and I'm in a treatment regiment right now for inflamed AT. I may have to take a break but an MRI may be the only way to find out. Trying to schedule an appt. this week.
who do you use? I've gone through a few local ART guys with mixed results.
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Just be aware that they have seriously injured people before.
And medical doctors haven't?

I take ownership of my health and well-being, and consult with medical professionals and practitioners as appropriate. I have no illusions of the limitations of a chiro practitioner. Heck, I don't even limit myself to Western medical treatment.
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I couldn't get the chiropractor to quit popping my neck - i hate that. So the next time I had an issue with my back, I went for massage instead. The therapist is at the same chiropractor's office that popped my neck - and did a great job. I end up needing one visit every 10-12 months or so - and the therapist gives me exercises to do to release the seized up muscles, so he helps me prevent the "attacks" that have me there.

This is most decidedly NOT a feel-good massage - I shed real tears sometimes. But he works it out and I walk straight.
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Old 03-26-12, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Nerull View Post
It's amazing what you can pretend to cure for people who believe it.

While it's certainly true that some symptoms can be treated by manipulation of joints and muscles - physical therapists do the same thing, the field of chiropractic is based on the idea that a "misaligned" spine causes nerve signals to have trouble traveling from the brain. Many chiropractors believe that they can cure diseases, even cancer, by manipulating your spine. (The founder of the field claimed 95% of all diseases) This is complete and utter bull****.

If you feel comfortable allowing the equivalent of a witch doctor with little real medical training to perform what is essentially physical therapy on you, go right ahead, though. Just be aware that they have seriously injured people before.
Nine years training actually. Chiro's are very good for lower back pain especially herniated discs etc. But yeah you only need a coupla adjustments at most. When they start trying to tie you into long-term treatment plans just make your excuses. The stuff about curing cancer is from many years ago....no one makes those claims any more.
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I have been to three in my life. The first two left me convinced that the whole industry was a rip-off bunch of quacks. I moved last month and was forced to do all the heavy lifting myself (which I am not supposed to do) and hurt my back and hip muscles really badly. I was down for weeks, and finally went to the doctor from the pain radiating down my leg and up my spine. While I was there the nurse suggested a guy on the "sly" and recommended that no matter what the doctor said, to go see this guy. I went and was very skeptical from my previous encounters. One visit and the pain was almost completely relieved. After the second, totally gone...no drugs, no funny machines, just some cracking of my back and neck. Since then I have been back for two visits. He knocked out an issue I have had since my teens in my shoulder from a motorcycle wreck then in one visit, a neck issue I have had for years in another, and wants me to come back a total of six visits (two more) to line me up and allow the musculature to "adapt" to the adjustment and not just pull me back out. After that, just come as and if I need to, which I suspect will be few and far between.

With all that said, I think there are a lot of bad practitioners out there, but if you are lucky enough to find one who isn't in it just to get you paying one of his bills on a regular basis there is a lot to be said for the art.
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Just as a matter of interest - some of the very senior administration & lecturers at the biggest chiro school are serious cyclists. I've ridden with some of them.
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Ive seen two in my life, [now onto a third], first one was great, second one was a TOTAL quack, tried using some weird contraption where a ball gets forced at a high speed in a tube and *pops* your bone back in place, it made my knee ALOT worse.

this new guy, hasnt worked on me yet. but as soon as he found out a lawyer was involved with my bike accident he was REALLY eager to get me in, and even called back and wanted me in earlier than expected.
he sounds completely legit though upon visiting today, he wants me to start tomorrow with adjustments.

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Chiropratic is quackery. There is no real science behind it. Save yourself the pain and money and see a real physical therapist.
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Originally Posted by Nerull View Post
If you feel comfortable allowing the equivalent of a witch doctor with little real medical training to perform what is essentially physical therapy on you, go right ahead, though. Just be aware that they have seriously injured people before.
my wife is a D.O., which is a physician who also has similar training to a chiropractor. I suspect there are a lot of physicians that go to chiropractors and that send patients to chiropractors. My chiropractor tells me if he can't help me with something, he hardly makes outlandish claims. But if a witch doctor could relieve my pain as effectively as the chiropractor, I'd probably go to him.
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