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Wax for a new frame?

Old 03-30-12, 02:18 PM
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Wax for a new frame?

I had my derailleur hanger snap today which totaled my frame and rear wheel. While I'm very bummed, on the bright side I wasn't hurt. While I really loved my bike, there were places that had gotten dirty during the first month that I rode it that I could never quite get clean, and I often wished that I had waxed it when I first got it to protect it better (the bottom of the downtube was white, so I guess that didn't help). While I'm waiting to hear what will happen with my bike from the shop, I do know for sure that I'll either be riding a new frame or a new bike very soon, and I want to wax or treat it with something so that nothing will "settle" into the paint.

Any recommendations?
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I reccomend a more permanent synthetic sealant over a natural carnuba wax. Top options include Optimum Opti-coat 2.0. A similar more budget freindly product that is really good is car pro C-Quartz. Opti-coat will remain permanently until physically removed via polisher. C-Quartz will last about 1-2 years.

I have optimum opti-coat on all my bikes and my cars. Will last for many years. Extremely easy to clean and protects the paint.

I have a White car and a White CAAD10. My chainstay and area near my BB are very easy to clean if dirt even has a chance to stick.
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Originally Posted by NWS Alpine View Post
I reccomend a more permanent synthetic sealant over a natural carnuba wax. Top options include Optimum Opti-coat 2.0. A similar more budget freindly product that is really good is car pro C-Quartz. Opti-coat will remain permanently until physically removed via polisher. C-Quartz will last about 1-2 years.

I have optimum opti-coat on all my bikes and my cars. Will last for many years. Extremely easy to clean and protects the paint.

I have a White car and a White CAAD10. My chainstay and area near my BB are very easy to clean if dirt even has a chance to stick.
I don't know anything about synthetic sealants, but I use carnuba wax on my frames every three months or so. Isn't carnuba good enough?

Please educate a bit on frame paint protection. Thanks
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dude, I just use pledge. that's enough. if you must have more, any car wax will do.



don't over think it.
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Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
I don't know anything about synthetic sealants, but I use carnuba wax on my frames every three months or so. Isn't carnuba good enough?

Please educate a bit on frame paint protection. Thanks

Carnuba is good but it breaks down and wears off. With a sealant you really only need to re-apply it once every couple years. Save time cleaning and more time riding!
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Originally Posted by NWS Alpine View Post
Carnuba is good but it breaks down and wears off. With a sealant you really only need to re-apply it once every couple years. Save time cleaning and more time riding!
Okay. What sealant do you use or would recommend?

Thanks.
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dude, I just use pledge. that's enough. if you must have more, any car wax will do.



don't over think it.
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Please educate a bit on frame paint protection.
It's entirely unnecessary unless you want your bike to look like you don't actually ride it.
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It's entirely unnecessary unless you want your bike to look like you don't actually ride it.
Okay. I just thought it'll be cool to have a wax job you only do every couple of years as opposed to the Meguiar's Carnauba Plus Wax I presently use on my car and bikes every three months or so.
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Originally Posted by NWS Alpine View Post
I reccomend a more permanent synthetic sealant over a natural carnuba wax. Top options include Optimum Opti-coat 2.0. A similar more budget freindly product that is really good is car pro C-Quartz. Opti-coat will remain permanently until physically removed via polisher. C-Quartz will last about 1-2 years.

I have optimum opti-coat on all my bikes and my cars. Will last for many years. Extremely easy to clean and protects the paint.

I have a White car and a White CAAD10. My chainstay and area near my BB are very easy to clean if dirt even has a chance to stick.
This sounds to be exactly what I was looking for - while the Optimum Opti-coat 2.0 is kinda pricey, I think it might be worth it. I will also check out the C-Quartz.

I know some other folks might think doing this is a bit over the top, I really wish I had known to do this with my original frame. I only wipe down / wax my bike when it gets really dirty, but the fact that there was grime and blemishes that I couldn't get out really "bugged" me. Thanks for the tip NWS!
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Clear coat is the protectant...
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Maybe I'm offbase here, but my impression is that wax & sealants are good for (1) creating a visual luster and (2) making it easier to wipe away grime when you wash the bike with soap and water. Presumably the wax/sealant is broken down immediately in spots like the bottom of the downtube and rear of the seattube that are sandblasted with grit on a wet ride. Works well for cars because they aren't with the exception of the front bumper & grill (and wheel wells, obviously), which I've noticed lose their luster almost immediately, and I've tried a lot of products. And you'll still need to get to those hard to reach spots to wipe away dirt anyway. I'm not against the idea, I just think it's hardly worth the thought you (or I, for that matter) have just put into it.
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If you ride really frequently then chances are you wash your bike every once in a while (every 500-1000 miles or after muck riding..?). A good wash, dry, then Pledge wipe down with a cloth. Much else is beauty work but regular care means less complexity yields fine results...

BTW OP, not sure what your are not getting clean in your washing but tooth brushes help w/ hard to reach.
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