Giving up booze.......
#201
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You were ~this~ close. Sure, some pot dealers deal other drugs, but your scenario is out there. IME, friends who are pot users often do other drugs, and that's how people get introduced and can try different drugs. That's the "gateway" aspect of the drug. It applies to alcohol as well.
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I'm giving up the booze....
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You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
You could fall off a cliff and die.
You could get lost and die.
You could hit a tree and die.
OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.
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#206
In most cases though, the smoke from cannabis is not really the problem, it is obviously smoke... but the typical issue is that due to the substance being historically illegal it has been distributed through less than reliable channels aka: drug dealers. This of course does not apply to home grown etc, but for those who did not have a tree in the backyard or the closet with a lamp... they would go elsewhere. This is where the problem starts, because .the person(s) cutting the substance down to individual delivery packages do not clean off the crystal meth or acid off the table... why bother? So... you end up getting more than mary jane..
the same or even worse problems exist with legally distributed products (ex. oil/gas, diamonds, coca cola in latin america, etc.).
other than some possibly anecdotal evidence, i would like to know what you are using in support of your claim: "the person(s) cutting the substance down to individual delivery packages do not clean off the crystal meth or acid off the table... why bother? So... you end up getting more than mary jane."
also, historically illegal for a relatively short time, in the grand scheme of its legal use; i believe it was prohibited in 1937. of course, the impossible to get high from, yet incredibly profitable and easy to manipulate hemp got lumped in too.
also, geographical and social location will play a huge factor in the quality and channels of distribution. i doubt a significant portion of cannabis users in California have a hard time finding a non-meth-ridden distributor.
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I think that generally, the older you get, and more responsibilities you take on, the less you drink.
When I was younger, I wasn't ever an alcoholic, but I was definitely a binge drinker. Never drank at home alone, but when I went out, I would always pickle myself.
These days, with a wife, work, a child and a tight schedule, I drink maybe once every couple of months.
It's not that I dislike drinking, I just place a higher premium on my free time, and don't want to spend it inebriated.
Then there's the hangover... I hate hate hate (3 times for emphasis) the feeling of being even slightly incapacitated.
There's nothing worse than not being able to do something you want because you feel crappy, by your own fault.
When I was younger, I wasn't ever an alcoholic, but I was definitely a binge drinker. Never drank at home alone, but when I went out, I would always pickle myself.
These days, with a wife, work, a child and a tight schedule, I drink maybe once every couple of months.
It's not that I dislike drinking, I just place a higher premium on my free time, and don't want to spend it inebriated.
Then there's the hangover... I hate hate hate (3 times for emphasis) the feeling of being even slightly incapacitated.
There's nothing worse than not being able to do something you want because you feel crappy, by your own fault.
#214
I think that generally, the older you get, and more responsibilities you take on, the less you drink.
When I was younger, I wasn't ever an alcoholic, but I was definitely a binge drinker. Never drank at home alone, but when I went out, I would always pickle myself.
These days, with a wife, work, a child and a tight schedule, I drink maybe once every couple of months.
It's not that I dislike drinking, I just place a higher premium on my free time, and don't want to spend it inebriated.
Then there's the hangover... I hate hate hate (3 times for emphasis) the feeling of being even slightly incapacitated.
There's nothing worse than not being able to do something you want because you feel crappy, by your own fault.
When I was younger, I wasn't ever an alcoholic, but I was definitely a binge drinker. Never drank at home alone, but when I went out, I would always pickle myself.
These days, with a wife, work, a child and a tight schedule, I drink maybe once every couple of months.
It's not that I dislike drinking, I just place a higher premium on my free time, and don't want to spend it inebriated.
Then there's the hangover... I hate hate hate (3 times for emphasis) the feeling of being even slightly incapacitated.
There's nothing worse than not being able to do something you want because you feel crappy, by your own fault.
Except for a wife, and then the kids being in college, same story here.
#215
I think that generally, the older you get, and more responsibilities you take on, the less you drink.
When I was younger, I wasn't ever an alcoholic, but I was definitely a binge drinker. Never drank at home alone, but when I went out, I would always pickle myself.
These days, with a wife, work, a child and a tight schedule, I drink maybe once every couple of months.
It's not that I dislike drinking, I just place a higher premium on my free time, and don't want to spend it inebriated.
Then there's the hangover... I hate hate hate (3 times for emphasis) the feeling of being even slightly incapacitated.
There's nothing worse than not being able to do something you want because you feel crappy, by your own fault.
When I was younger, I wasn't ever an alcoholic, but I was definitely a binge drinker. Never drank at home alone, but when I went out, I would always pickle myself.
These days, with a wife, work, a child and a tight schedule, I drink maybe once every couple of months.
It's not that I dislike drinking, I just place a higher premium on my free time, and don't want to spend it inebriated.
Then there's the hangover... I hate hate hate (3 times for emphasis) the feeling of being even slightly incapacitated.
There's nothing worse than not being able to do something you want because you feel crappy, by your own fault.
#217
I'm slowly starting to relate...also the less I drink the less I care to drink. It becomes bothersome when it upsets your stomach or just makes you drowsy because you aren't pounding them to get wasted. I used to drink like 4-5 post ride with friends...now I might finish 1...might. I prefer lots of water and a beer just before sleep to help calm my nerves
#218
In my mid 30's I am becoming less and less tolerant of hangovers. I think to myself, you get ONE day off (when we're busy at work anyway) and you're going to spend it on the couch with a headache!? What a waste.
After you have two or three beers, if you're like me, you'll have this deep stirring in your loins. It's a primal urge to have another beer. I have learned to talk to this urge, bring him out in the light, learn his name and his nature, and say, "F you! I'm stopping. I want to get up and ride tomorrow."
My brother quit binge drinking and only drinks on special occasions. Now he has a six pack.
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