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Old 09-16-12 | 06:09 PM
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Wheels yes again

Ok I know this his been talked about 100's of time but I still want to ask

I have a synapse 6. I weight 220lbs and losing weight. I ride on bike path mostly and some New York streets. I plan on ridding in a few events like the fall classic in pa and a couple events my local bike club has.
I don't really know to about wheels or tires.
I was looking to upgrade my wheel set to something lighter and to help with climbing some hills.
From reading I think I want the mavic aksium

What do you guys think. If anything. Or do you have different wheel set that might be good

Thanks and if I missed some detail which I'm sure I did please tell me I want to learn
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Old 09-16-12 | 06:31 PM
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Why doesn't the 41 just sticky a wheel thread already?...
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I weigh 215 and just got the Aksiums. So far I love them, they are a heavier wheelset but seem bomb proof. I had my old wheel set come untrue twice in 7 rides. Ive been on 5 rides with the askiums and they have been terrific.
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Old 09-16-12 | 06:37 PM
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Ok it looks like I'm about to get a nuke dropped on me for a Q's. it's all good man.
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Old 09-16-12 | 08:08 PM
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Aksium's are good, but they are on the heavy side. If you watch the online stores you can get a set of Equips on sale for not much more. If you really have some patience, I bought my last set of SSCs off Craigslist with wheel bags for $350.

Of course, the 41 crowd will tell you you need a set of custom (fill in the boutique builder) wheels made out of unobtanium that will cost more than your next BMW.
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Of course, the 41 crowd will tell you you need a set of custom (fill in the boutique builder) wheels made out of unobtanium that will cost more than your next BMW.
Only 1/2 the crowd will say that. The other half will say new wheels will make virtually no difference for the OP and his type of riding. Then we will have 6 pages of arguments.
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Old 09-16-12 | 09:07 PM
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Hmm well what would the crowd say about these token c22a
https://www.tokenproducts.com/index.p...&id=101&page=2
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Are these events you're contemplating races or organized rides? It doesn't sound like your base is such that new wheels are going to make a difference in any event (unless the MUPs you use have an express lane).
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Consider this:
  1. The Askiums aren’t that light (probably around 1800g). If you save anything over your original wheels, it will probably be a quarter to a half of a pound or so. The total weight of rider/bike here is 240+, so you’ll be reducing it by maybe 1/600 or so. Any perceived performance gains are going to be in your head.
  2. Most wheels that are reasonably light have rider weight limits around 180 lbs. If you wait until your weight is within those limits, you can get some nice <1600g semi-aero wheels, which might save over a pound of weight and provide a little aerodynamic improvement over what you have now.
  3. With a body weight of 180 & 20 pounds of bike, a pound of weight reduction in the wheels would amount to 1/200 of your total weight. Still a drop in the bucket, but three times better than what you’re looking at by buying the Askiums now. Add in the aerodynamics, and you might actually be able to feel a difference.
  4. you can use the new wheels to help motivate you to lose weight, and while you wait for the weight loss, save a little more money, the aforementioned 1500g semi-aero wheels will cost you $500-600. For example: https://www.williamscycling.com/Wheel-System-30_p_8.html

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Consider this:
Add in the aerodynamics, and you might actually be able to feel a difference.
Can aero wheel be trouble with strong side wind?
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Old 09-17-12 | 05:40 AM
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depends on how Aero, if we're talking about 80mm carbon wheels, they can be, but I don't think the OP is going to spend that much anyway. For 30mm v-sectioned aluminum clinchers, it's not so much of a problem. Aerodynamic benefits would be small in that case. If we didn't care about drops in the bucket though, we wouldn't be having this conversation to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Debusama
Consider this:
  1. The Askiums aren’t that light (probably around 1800g). If you save anything over your original wheels, it will probably be a quarter to a half of a pound or so. The total weight of rider/bike here is 240+, so you’ll be reducing it by maybe 1/600 or so. Any perceived performance gains are going to be in your head.
  2. Most wheels that are reasonably light have rider weight limits around 180 lbs. If you wait until your weight is within those limits, you can get some nice <1600g semi-aero wheels, which might save over a pound of weight and provide a little aerodynamic improvement over what you have now.
  3. With a body weight of 180 & 20 pounds of bike, a pound of weight reduction in the wheels would amount to 1/200 of your total weight. Still a drop in the bucket, but three times better than what you’re looking at by buying the Askiums now. Add in the aerodynamics, and you might actually be able to feel a difference.
  4. you can use the new wheels to help motivate you to lose weight, and while you wait for the weight loss, save a little more money, the aforementioned 1500g semi-aero wheels will cost you $500-600. For example: https://www.williamscycling.com/Wheel-System-30_p_8.html
Thanks for the input. I think I'm going to do just that. Stick with the wheels that came with my bike until I drop some more pounds save some money at the same time. I already lost 15 in 3 and a half weeks. So by next spring I should be good.

Ok even though I'm not getting a new set yet has any one heard of the token wheels I wasn't able to find any reviews or any one talking about them?
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