hello, i will be getting one of these brand new top groups for a new bike, i know they are all great. but i am looking for the most durable one. i know you guys have experience with all of them so can you tell me what one is the most durable. i currently have older campagnolo on my bike and it is very durable. i want a group that will still work flawlessly 5+ years after i buy it. ( i am only interested in the mechanical versions, i dont like electronic shifting, so no di2 and eps) i do a bit of everything solo rides, racing, group rides....

I don't know about SR, but I have Chorus groups from 1997 that still work just fine. Additionally, many of the bits and pieces in Campy shifters and such can be replaced without having to replace the entirety.

ya i have the older record and centuar i think 2006 or older, and it is extremely durable. i will be getting a brand new modern top end group and want to know what group will be most durable. i like them all in terms of looks and function.

I have the latest version of Super Record. I love it over my previous dura ace, but it was 9 yrs old. I never had a problem with my dura ace. I like the campy ergonomics better, and most of the parts are replaceable vs non-replaceable on shimano.

Base your decision on something other than durability, especially for five years. All three will work fine after that time.

Campy Record>>Dura Ace>>>Sram

At that level, they're all about the same- the difference for many comes in their other wheelsets (Shimno/sram vs. campy) and their PERSONAL ergonomic feel for the brifters.

Go try them out, figure out which you like best, it's a very personal decision- this is about as bad as a thread asking for a saddle recommendation.

Not really - Campagnolo stopped Ultrashift small part sales in 2009.

You need to buy a replacement shift assembly (about $90 although it'd be more for Super Record with the 7g saving rear ratchets that set it apart from the rest of them) that includes everything except brake blade, hood, and mounting hardware, although the shifters remain simple inside so they could be serviced if you had spares (like a set of crashed levers or $125 set of NOS 2010 Veloce Ultrashift levers imported from the UK where net cost for the internals is $25 a side since you get a $30 pair of hoods and a $45 cable set that you'll need to buy anyways before you wear them out. The 10 speed index cam is different from the 11 speed levers and rear ratchets are each 3.5g heavier than Super Record but otherwise the mechanisms are identical).

I just retired my 1996 Chorus levers (upgraded to 9 speeds after Campagnolo dropped my favorite 8 cog cassette) after the small front paddle return spring broke on my right shifter which would require replacing the whole paddle that is no longer available (I'd previously replaced the big front spring (got the last two from loose screws), thumb button spring, lots of G-springs, and a few spring carriers (the last one bought after Branford doubled the price)).

The new levers should be more reliable, since they have a ball rolling into the shift detents instead of a G-spring leg slowly grinding down.

FWIW, you might want to pickup some NOS 2010 Veloce 10 speed Ultrashift levers before they sell out or at least lay in a stock pile of replacement parts for your second generation levers before the supply dries up - Campagnolo no longer lists the small parts separately in their spares catalog and I'd expect them to disappear like the first generation parts did.

That said, it's still Campagnolo by a landslide. Especially if you ride a compact crank - you're riding along, the 21 cog isn't big enough for you, and you just rotate your thumbs simultaneously to end up in the next gear which is 34x15 and five cogs away. Otherwise it's click, release, click, release, click, release, click, release, click, release.

Deja vu.