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Old 02-25-13 | 05:47 AM
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Road Frame Fixed Gear Advice

I am looking to buy a Road GEO frame/fork and use it as a fixed gear trainer. I like the feeling of constant pedaling and uphill challenge. I currently ride a Dolan Pre Cursa 60cm.
The track frame Dolan is not comfortable for 60mile rides.
I am looking for:
Frame - carbon/aluminum/steel (no preference)
size - 60cm (I am 6'4 with 34 pant, this size fits me well)
under $700 (frame & fork)

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i just bought one of these and am in the process of building it up.

https://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._400001_400314

it's so cheap that it hardly makes any difference if it's any good.

as an owner and daily rider of six other bikes. including old lugged steel, custom titanium and carbon, but no aluminum, i thought i would give it a try.

the paint won't last, but that's okay by me. i'll be having it powdercoated.

the rear dropout forks come with wear plates that need to be installed. the countersunk relief holes in the forks don't line up with the threaded holes in the stamped steel wear plates. a little judicious filing was necessary.

otherwise, like the headtube machining for the headset and the BB threads, were fine. welds look as good as anything else i have ever seen.

one thing i hope i am going to like about this frame is that it is really a road frame. it's the same frame that Nashbar makes into three different frames, a single speed, a road and a touring. they just add a couple of doodads here and there and little else, i think. oh, rear spacing is 120mm. and seatstay brace is drilled for brake, with welded on rear brake cable guides.

performance bike charges no shipping if the customer can pick it up an any PB store. so i took advantage of the fact that a store is only a couple of miles away.

edit: oh, i forgot. you may notice that it does come in a 60cm. the toptube is parallel and there is no fork. i bought an old litespeed full carbon fork off ebay for 39. it supposedly had a small gouge in it and put people off. it turned out it was chipped paint...

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Old 02-25-13 | 10:25 AM
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Check out the Felt Breed? It'll have the more lax geometry for metric centuries, but still have that "feisty" effect. It's a bit more than $700, but it's a whole bike. You'd just have to change the gearing and tires to rig it for road only.

Also, if it's your size, the older Jamis Sputniks are great frames. Full Reynolds and the geometry you're looking for.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Jamis-Sputni...item4ac161cdcb
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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan
i just bought one of these and am in the process of building it up.

https://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._400001_400314

it's so cheap that it hardly makes any difference if it's any good.
Looks like a nice find and a fun project.
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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan
edit: oh, i forgot. you may notice that it does come in a 60cm. the toptube is parallel and there is no fork. i bought an old litespeed full carbon fork off ebay for 39. it supposedly had a small gouge in it and put people off. it turned out it was chipped paint...
The only problem with the Nashbar Nekkid/Performance Ascent frame is that it's sized very tall. The 60cm model only has a 56.5 top tube, it will most likely be too small for someone who rides a more regularly sized 60cm frame.

I've been riding one for a few months, maybe 1500 miles on it so far: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...bsequent-build

It has road-fixed style geometry, I run a road fork and 25c tires. My longest ride on the frame has been 76 miles, it's very comfortable ride.
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The Kona Paddy Wagon is available as a frameset. Takes mid reach brakes and has fender eyelets, so you can run 28mm tires and fenders if you want. Has a 1 1/8" fork, so you could swap for a carbon fork like the IRD/Tange if you wanted.

Here's a cheap 59cm Soma Rush. I had the 631 version for a while. This one is Prestige. 1" fork, so Ritchey and Wound Up are going to be your main options for carbon.

https://sellwoodcycle.com/consign/59c...-frameset-200/
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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan
one thing i hope i am going to like about this frame is that it is really a road frame. it's the same frame that Nashbar makes into three different frames, a single speed, a road and a touring. they just add a couple of doodads here and there and little else, i think. oh, rear spacing is 120mm. and seatstay brace is drilled for brake, with welded on rear brake cable guides.

edit: oh, i forgot. you may notice that it does come in a 60cm. the toptube is parallel and there is no fork. i bought an old litespeed full carbon fork off ebay for 39. it supposedly had a small gouge in it and put people off. it turned out it was chipped paint...
Did some cutting and pasting, just to add a little. From Nashbar, the touring frame is different from the road frames, but the road frame comes in a bunch of versions: single speed, downtube boss & press in headset, downtube cable stop and integrated headset, and finally downtube stop with integrated headset and carbon rear triangle. I have owned three of these (all but the single speed), and agree that they are a great value.

As to the 60cm having a short eff. TT, remember to figure in the 74 deg HTA. Once you get your seat setback right, it isn't that much shorter than a comparable longer TT with shallower HTA. This is a good frame to consider something like the Velo Orange 40mm setback seatpost.
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HTA for the SS frames lists at 72.5 degrees. Which models are 74 degrees?
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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
The only problem with the Nashbar Nekkid/Performance Ascent frame is that it's sized very tall. The 60cm model only has a 56.5 top tube, it will most likely be too small for someone who rides a more regularly sized 60cm frame.

I've been riding one for a few months, maybe 1500 miles on it so far: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...bsequent-build

It has road-fixed style geometry, I run a road fork and 25c tires. My longest ride on the frame has been 76 miles, it's very comfortable ride.
Good call. I typically ride a 54 but went a size down to 52 with a longer stem. It's a great bike that cost me less than I've paid for a single tubular race tire.
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Originally Posted by Spoonrobot
HTA for the SS frames lists at 72.5 degrees. Which models are 74 degrees?
Sorry, typo. STA is 74 deg, which is what I was trying to describe. My other road bike has a 72.5 STA, and a 580 eff TT, and it was not hard to line up similar fit on the two.
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I've been intrigued by these folks. Almost bought one a few years ago.
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https://www.wabicycles.com/index.html

I've been intrigued by these folks. Almost bought one a few years ago.
I have the Wabi wheels on an old specialized langster. Love them. Very light and reasonably priced.
If the original poster is looking for more of a road geometry, he could get a dawes sst al from bikesdirect. heck of a bike for the money.
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I think I might convert my Schwinn Tempo or buy an older road frame, I enjoy building things up.
I like wabi, I have their wheelset on my Dolan Pre Cursa, light and cheap.

Thanks everyone.

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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan
i just bought one of these and am in the process of building it up.

https://www.performancebike.com/bikes..._400001_400314

it's so cheap that it hardly makes any difference if it's any good.

as an owner and daily rider of six other bikes. including old lugged steel, custom titanium and carbon, but no aluminum, i thought i would give it a try.

the paint won't last, but that's okay by me. i'll be having it powdercoated.

the rear dropout forks come with wear plates that need to be installed. the countersunk relief holes in the forks don't line up with the threaded holes in the stamped steel wear plates. a little judicious filing was necessary.

otherwise, like the headtube machining for the headset and the BB threads, were fine. welds look as good as anything else i have ever seen.

one thing i hope i am going to like about this frame is that it is really a road frame. it's the same frame that Nashbar makes into three different frames, a single speed, a road and a touring. they just add a couple of doodads here and there and little else, i think. oh, rear spacing is 120mm. and seatstay brace is drilled for brake, with welded on rear brake cable guides.

performance bike charges no shipping if the customer can pick it up an any PB store. so i took advantage of the fact that a store is only a couple of miles away.

edit: oh, i forgot. you may notice that it does come in a 60cm. the toptube is parallel and there is no fork. i bought an old litespeed full carbon fork off ebay for 39. it supposedly had a small gouge in it and put people off. it turned out it was chipped paint...
update:

have a few rides on the ascent frame from Performance bike. WOW! the aluminum is just as i had hoped. audibly quiet, stiffer and lighter than my vintage steel/lugged frames. very stable. came out at about 15-16 lbs. i would race or tour on this in a heartbeat. very very stable hands free riding at high speed too.

wish they offered these things years ago and had the knowledge and experience to try one.
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