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Old 04-09-13 | 03:16 PM
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Installing cable donuts

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Is there a way to install cable donuts on a road bike without having to rewire?
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Internal or external cabling?

The donuts that came with my wires have a solid outer rim, no way to get them on without undoing the cable. I imagine there is something out that that you can retrofit but I don't know of anything specific.
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Old 04-09-13 | 03:35 PM
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Internal or external cabling?

The donuts that came with my wires have a solid outer rim, no way to get them on without undoing the cable. I imagine there is something out that that you can retrofit but I don't know of anything specific.
For external, beneath the top tube.
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Cut and solder the cable (kidding)

or slice half of the donut with a sharp blade so you can open it up and get they cable in. My experience with them is that they just slide all over the place and are pretty well useless.
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My experience with them is that they just slide all over the place and are pretty well useless.
Agreed.
I just went to an auto-parts store and bought a few feet of the smallest vacuum tubing they stocked, and ran it the full length of the gap between the cable stops on the top tube.
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Shimangolo's suggestion is a good one. I personally use "cable housing lining", which you should be able to get at any good shop for pretty darn cheap. Those little rubber donuts really don't do much.
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Originally Posted by Lacie123401
Hi guys,
Is there a way to install cable donuts on a road bike without having to rewire?
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No.

Never been a fan of tubes over the bare cable either- I like to use my slotted housing stops to clean my cables.

Scratches happen, I'm over it.
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Did someone say donuts?
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I used to think these were necessary. I don't think this anymore.
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Ok, seriously now. For shift cables: Remove chain. Remove derailleurs. Stretch donuts over derailleurs. Viola!
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Old 04-09-13 | 07:38 PM
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So what are these things for anyway? Mine always just go in the trash first cable change.
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So what are these things for anyway? Mine always just go in the trash first cable change.
In my experience, any rear brake cable that does not have a continuous housing running all the way from lever to rear brake, will rattle against the top tube when you hit bumps. Very annoying.
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In my experience, any rear brake cable that does not have a continuous housing running all the way from lever to rear brake, will rattle against the top tube when you hit bumps. Very annoying.
Wow! That is so interesting. In 30+ year of cycling I have never had rattle from the exposed inner cable slapping the frame. Ever! The only similar problem I ever had was the cable quick disconnects on a Ritchey Breakaway rattling against the frame. Rubber O-rings fixed that up fine.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
In my experience, any rear brake cable that does not have a continuous housing running all the way from lever to rear brake, will rattle against the top tube when you hit bumps. Very annoying.
I only put them on my rear brake cable... the shift cables are california crossed inside the down tube so if they hit the side I probably have larger issues to worry about.
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I only put them on my rear brake cable... the shift cables are california crossed inside the down tube so if they hit the side I probably have larger issues to worry about.
In my experience, shift cables are tight enough they never rattle against the tubes, so I've never needed to do anything with them. In contrast, the rear brake cable is quite slack when not applying brakes. On my Litespeed, the rear brake cable jangled like a bell before I slipped the tubing over it.
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I put black heatshrink on the exposed rear brake cable under/beside the top tube.
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Old 04-10-13 | 09:32 AM
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I had a CAAD 8 that would rattle the shift cables against the downtube when the cables were crossed. Donuts fixed it.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
In my experience, shift cables are tight enough they never rattle against the tubes, so I've never needed to do anything with them. In contrast, the rear brake cable is quite slack when not applying brakes. On my Litespeed, the rear brake cable jangled like a bell before I slipped the tubing over it.
If your brake cable is slack, you need to check the housing for binding. The brake should keep that cable pretty tight, even when not in use.
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If your brake cable is slack, you need to check the housing for binding. The brake should keep that cable pretty tight, even when not in use.
No.
Brand new build with everything working perfectly.
When you have 44cm of unsupported cable running just 3mm from a metal tube, it is going to slap on bumps.
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You could use a small dab of clear silicone caulk to make a rudimentary cable donut on a cable without rerunning it I would think. Heck, you could even find colored caulk.
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