The death of non carbon rim....Carbon is the New King of Wheels
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The death of non carbon rim....Carbon is the New King of Wheels
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yay!
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yea it's always been kind of puzzling to me how anyone could have a blanket distrust of carbon at all, much less when the frames and wheels survive Paris Rounaix, and there's basically nobody who rides in more adverse conditions.
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An important milestone to be sure. What significance is there to the fact that these Paris Roubaix wheels were all or almost all tubulars? We have had a double standard for maybe half that aluminum century, tubular aluminum for advanced racing and clincher aluminum for enthusiast training and fitness riding. Will there now be a mixed material double standard for a few years, carbon tubular and aluminum clincher, until carbon finally claims it all? It seems to me that aluminum will linger in the amateur sport a lot longer than wood and steel did. Anyone?
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An important milestone to be sure. What significance is there to the fact that these Paris Roubaix wheels were all or almost all tubulars? We have had a double standard for maybe half that aluminum century, tubular aluminum for advanced racing and clincher aluminum for enthusiast training and fitness riding. Will there now be a mixed material double standard for a few years, carbon tubular and aluminum clincher, until carbon finally claims it all? It seems to me that aluminum will linger in the amateur sport a lot longer than wood and steel did. Anyone?
I'm sure that if there were an internet back then, there would have been plenty of people arguing FOR wood and against steel for many of the same reasons that people who are (inexplicably) against carbon today.
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Paris Roubaix is undoubtedly a test of durability, but a pro mountain stage might not be as clear a test of heat dissipation. Pros might be going faster down the mountain, but they're probably also braking less than your average amateur. Pros already use carbon rims in these conditions, unless i'm mistaken.
I don't think anyone thinks that carbon rims explode under normal braking - it's prolonged braking on a descent that seems to be the problem. I'm sure that this will be addressed.
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P-R isn't a course where you'd expect heavy braking under any circumstances.
I think the takeaway is that carbon has proven to be resilient enough to handle the toughest circumstances, whereas some people thought it could never handle replace alu completely in P-R, tubular or otherwise.
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I just bought a set of Fulcrum Racing 7s for $193 a few weeks ago. Want to guess what the rims are made of? It ain't carbon.
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FR7 are over a pound heavier than the carbon clincher version, even heavier than the tubular.
price may be your only criterion, but that's not the way it is for everyone.
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That might be a tougher nut to crack.
Paris Roubaix is undoubtedly a test of durability, but a pro mountain stage might not be as clear a test of heat dissipation. Pros might be going faster down the mountain, but they're probably also braking less than your average amateur. Pros already use carbon rims in these conditions, unless i'm mistaken.
I don't think anyone thinks that carbon rims explode under normal braking - it's prolonged braking on a descent that seems to be the problem. I'm sure that this will be addressed.
Paris Roubaix is undoubtedly a test of durability, but a pro mountain stage might not be as clear a test of heat dissipation. Pros might be going faster down the mountain, but they're probably also braking less than your average amateur. Pros already use carbon rims in these conditions, unless i'm mistaken.
I don't think anyone thinks that carbon rims explode under normal braking - it's prolonged braking on a descent that seems to be the problem. I'm sure that this will be addressed.
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The issue here is not whether there is a carbon clincher that can take the punishment, it is whether all of them can? I think we know some can, but overall the answer is NOT. So folks will be plagued by doubt regarding lower priced, unbranded clinchers for quite a while. Until a much lower cost, durable alternative with a respected label enters the market, aluminum will continue to dominate clinchers. The wave of change is underway however.
Less material will always mean less strength.
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Yes, it's clear that professional cyclists riding a flat course and using 25-27mm wide tubular tires should definitely use carbon wheels. So long as they keep the alloy wheels as back up. Which is good, because from the pics I saw Vanmarcke finished with an alloy rear and a shredded carbon front.
I'm not sure what that has to do with the most of us, but anyways.
I'm not sure what that has to do with the most of us, but anyways.
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Price isn't even the main criteria. Those wheels are indestructibly strong.
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Yes, it's clear that professional cyclists riding a flat course and using 25-27mm wide tubular tires should definitely use carbon wheels. So long as they keep the alloy wheels as back up. Which is good, because from the pics I saw Vanmarcke finished with an alloy rear and a shredded carbon front.
I'm not sure what that has to do with the most of us, but anyways.
I'm not sure what that has to do with the most of us, but anyways.
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Well, the other unasked question is what happens to those wheels Cancellara rode on after he's done? Does he use them again for the next race or do they get sold on ebay?
Durability for one day is nice but I would need several years and thousands of miles before I would be able to rationalize them. In other words, just because a racer races on something doesn't make it appropriate for Joe Tyro.
Durability for one day is nice but I would need several years and thousands of miles before I would be able to rationalize them. In other words, just because a racer races on something doesn't make it appropriate for Joe Tyro.
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Aluminum is dead?
Maybe in the Tour, where everything is sponsored or use is free.
Not for us paying out of pocket.
Maybe in the Tour, where everything is sponsored or use is free.
Not for us paying out of pocket.