How do you guys get so fast??
09-20-13 | 08:53 PM
#26
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Well I know how(practice and pushing yourself), but its crazy! I was riding today and I got a lift(draft) offered to me. Dude was averaging like 30mph. I stayed with him for about 2-3 miles then I just couldnt hang on anymore. I am working on getting my speed up but im wondering why I couldnt stay with him while i was drafting him? He has serious skills. LOL. When im doing intervals, I end up dropping off quickly. What am I doing wrong?
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09-20-13 | 10:09 PM
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What are you guys talking about? 30mph, for a few minutes, plus the internet factor of overestimation, over various terrain (including downhills, quite likely), is quite within amateur capabilities.
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"If you’re new enough [to racing] that you would ask such question, then i would hazard a guess that if you just made up a workout that sounded hard to do, and did it, you’d probably get faster." --the tiniest sprinter
09-21-13 | 07:23 AM
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You have to buy two thousand dollars worth of carbon wheels and six thousand dollars of SRM power meter stuff.
That is the only way.
So says the 41.
That is the only way.
So says the 41.
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09-21-13 | 09:13 AM
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I can do 30 mph on flat for awhile, but nowhere near 2 miles. Favorable wind condition?
Hard to imagine that being sustainable for that long with a head/crosswind
Hard to imagine that being sustainable for that long with a head/crosswind
09-21-13 | 09:19 AM
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09-21-13 | 12:36 PM
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my "go time" computer must be broke... says I cruise about 18-19 mph and I average 15-16 depending on lights. Stupid computer... Maybe I should get a second pickup for it. I think that makes it TWICE as accurate.
09-21-13 | 01:20 PM
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Only time I've done 30+mph for more than a minute or two (solo) when I had a monster tailwind for about 6 miles. It was pretty awesome to almost spin out my 50x12 on flat land. On flat land with no wind you'd have to produce something like 400-500 watts to go 30mph (depending on your position) which is a pro level domestique effort to do that for any length of time.
09-21-13 | 01:50 PM
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Only time I've done 30+mph for more than a minute or two (solo) when I had a monster tailwind for about 6 miles. It was pretty awesome to almost spin out my 50x12 on flat land. On flat land with no wind you'd have to produce something like 400-500 watts to go 30mph (depending on your position) which is a pro level domestique effort to do that for any length of time.
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Cat 2 Track, Cat 3 Road.
"If you’re new enough [to racing] that you would ask such question, then i would hazard a guess that if you just made up a workout that sounded hard to do, and did it, you’d probably get faster." --the tiniest sprinter
Cat 2 Track, Cat 3 Road.
"If you’re new enough [to racing] that you would ask such question, then i would hazard a guess that if you just made up a workout that sounded hard to do, and did it, you’d probably get faster." --the tiniest sprinter
09-21-13 | 02:11 PM
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these guys must not have wives or gfs if they spend that much time on the road! 
09-21-13 | 02:16 PM
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Only time I've done 30+mph for more than a minute or two (solo) when I had a monster tailwind for about 6 miles. It was pretty awesome to almost spin out my 50x12 on flat land. On flat land with no wind you'd have to produce something like 400-500 watts to go 30mph (depending on your position) which is a pro level domestique effort to do that for any length of time.
09-21-13 | 02:52 PM
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09-21-13 | 03:03 PM
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I'm assuming from your location its one of those large A1A rides. That is done with about 200 ft of elevation change over the 50 miles. Its still fast (I've tried to keep up with a couple of those lines when I'm down there), but my rides down there are 4-5 mph faster than what I average with even modest elevation where I usually ride.
09-21-13 | 04:46 PM
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Totally agree..............anyone saying they can do this for sustained times are full of it if they are not "pro" riders point blank! No furtehr reply from me because to carry that kind of avg. for miles is not amateur or the like. And if they can do this and have yet to go pro shame on them!
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Cat 2 Track, Cat 3 Road.
"If you’re new enough [to racing] that you would ask such question, then i would hazard a guess that if you just made up a workout that sounded hard to do, and did it, you’d probably get faster." --the tiniest sprinter
Cat 2 Track, Cat 3 Road.
"If you’re new enough [to racing] that you would ask such question, then i would hazard a guess that if you just made up a workout that sounded hard to do, and did it, you’d probably get faster." --the tiniest sprinter
09-21-13 | 04:49 PM
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09-21-13 | 07:24 PM
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I would correct my earlier post, actual flat 40 km tt was 28.5 mph. 1.5 mph is a huge power difference.
09-21-13 | 08:49 PM
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I'm assuming from your location its one of those large A1A rides. That is done with about 200 ft of elevation change over the 50 miles. Its still fast (I've tried to keep up with a couple of those lines when I'm down there), but my rides down there are 4-5 mph faster than what I average with even modest elevation where I usually ride.
200ft elevation? Not even close LOL. I may get 84 feet, because I up the big hill 4 times
But we do have wind. Riding into a gusty 15-18mph wind can be frustrating, and it's common
09-22-13 | 12:35 AM
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What's depressing to me is that kind of effort might just be enough to hang on for dear life in some races.
09-22-13 | 06:21 AM
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1. good diet and weight
2. live on your bike
3. willing to suck up pain to stick with other guys willing to punish you.
No shortcut to being fast. Good genetics help but there is no shortcut. You gotta love it to want it and pay the sacrifice...
or you can be a bit more normal and average in speed, feel less of a need to thrash yourself and look up once in a while and
observe the beauty of nature.
09-22-13 | 10:31 AM
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oh, please. if the guy was genuinely going 30mph (which i seriously doubt) he would be a pro. 99% of the people on this forum can quit eveything else in their life, focus exclusively on cycling and still never become a pro. cycling is like any other sport--genetics, training, commitment all beginning at a very young age. and then only 1% of THAT group will ever reach the pros. to suggest otherwise is foolish.
09-22-13 | 10:46 AM
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oh, please. if the guy was genuinely going 30mph (which i seriously doubt) he would be a pro. 99% of the people on this forum can quit eveything else in their life, focus exclusively on cycling and still never become a pro. cycling is like any other sport--genetics, training, commitment all beginning at a very young age. and then only 1% of THAT group will ever reach the pros. to suggest otherwise is foolish.
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