Is this damage normal for this type of a crash?
10-13-13 | 06:22 AM
#101
Mr. Dopolina
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 10,276
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From: Taiwan
Bikes: KUUPAS, Simpson VR
I really can't say much about a frame I've never seen, ridden or tested in any way. If I did, I would just be talking out my arse (not that I haven't done that before).
What I can say is that even if I bought 100 frames/forks from the dozen or so Taiwan frame factories I have worked with over the years (and a few Chinese factories) I would pay more than this.
What I can say is that even if I bought 100 frames/forks from the dozen or so Taiwan frame factories I have worked with over the years (and a few Chinese factories) I would pay more than this.
Last edited by Bob Dopolina; 10-13-13 at 06:24 PM.
10-14-13 | 07:54 AM
#103
commu*ist spy
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,462
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From: oregon
man that frame looks good... I can probably build me a nice and light sub 17 pounder with carbon rims and full ultegra for about $1700... N+1 is bearing down on me!
I kind of wish they would make titanium frames. I could use that for crits.
I kind of wish they would make titanium frames. I could use that for crits.
Last edited by spectastic; 10-14-13 at 07:59 AM.
10-14-13 | 10:22 AM
#104
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Joined: Nov 2009
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And this speaks volumes to me, skip to nine minutes into video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nVbmcnsXXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nVbmcnsXXs
https://dengfubikes.com/video/detail.php?id=2
10-14-13 | 10:24 AM
#105
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No - the plural of anecdote is not data.
If you want to make a corollary it would be something like:
Anecdotes that are randomly selected, variable controlled, and of sufficient quantity so as to be statistically significant to the topic at hand can be data.
If you want to make a corollary it would be something like:
Anecdotes that are randomly selected, variable controlled, and of sufficient quantity so as to be statistically significant to the topic at hand can be data.
10-14-13 | 12:48 PM
#107
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Joined: May 2002
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From: Near Portland, OR
Bikes: Three road bikes. Two track bikes.
Comments like "...where are all the horror stories on the china frames??" are anecdote. Statistical quality control off the factory line is data, or as you put it, randomly selected, variable controlled, anecdotes of sufficient quantity so as to be statistically significant for the topic of frame quality.
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