Wow...
10-21-13 | 02:35 PM
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10-21-13 | 02:40 PM
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Looks like he was arrested and charged... so, there's that...
Originally Posted by video description
A bat-wielding elderly man is caught on video engaging cyclist after he allegedly brake-checked one of the riders and caused an accident. 74-Year-Old Sherman Ralph Clark can be seen after the incident already occurred now outside his stopped vehicle holding a bat while the cyclists calling police.
One of the men asks the Clark, "Why are you holding the bat?" to which Clark replies "To protect myself". Before anything could get resolved, Clark proceeds to get back into his vehicle and leaves the scene of the accident and in doing so, also runs over one of the $5,000 bikes in front of his car.
"The driver attacked with his vehicle a team ride. The riders were not taking up the road and the vehicle had plenty of room to move around them. The vehicle proceeded to go in front of them and slow down to their speed and slammed on the breaks thereby causing them to crash and stop. The driver proceeded to step out of the vehicle with a bat. what you see is the aftermath of the confrontation. Be kind to riders -- we are parents, fathers, mothers, spouses, sons, daughter, and many of us have children."
The Montgomery County Sheriff's Office arrived and Clark was arrested for criminal mischief -- $1,500 to $20,000 and for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
One of the men asks the Clark, "Why are you holding the bat?" to which Clark replies "To protect myself". Before anything could get resolved, Clark proceeds to get back into his vehicle and leaves the scene of the accident and in doing so, also runs over one of the $5,000 bikes in front of his car.
"The driver attacked with his vehicle a team ride. The riders were not taking up the road and the vehicle had plenty of room to move around them. The vehicle proceeded to go in front of them and slow down to their speed and slammed on the breaks thereby causing them to crash and stop. The driver proceeded to step out of the vehicle with a bat. what you see is the aftermath of the confrontation. Be kind to riders -- we are parents, fathers, mothers, spouses, sons, daughter, and many of us have children."
The Montgomery County Sheriff's Office arrived and Clark was arrested for criminal mischief -- $1,500 to $20,000 and for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
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10-21-13 | 03:18 PM
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His way of thinking matters not to me. The way he behaves is the real concern. That's what hopefully will be changed. Aggravated assault with a deadly weapon is a very serious crime. I hope he incurs the full wrath of the legal system. If so, there's probably a good chance his behavior will change.
10-21-13 | 08:05 PM
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10-21-13 | 09:40 PM
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This happened just north of where I live in Houston.
I posted stories about it in A&S: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...t-a-group-ride
I posted stories about it in A&S: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...t-a-group-ride
10-22-13 | 09:19 PM
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10-22-13 | 09:46 PM
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Mutli-tool in fist...phillips head or anything pointy sticking out between fingers...how many holes can we make in this shiney truck?!!!
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10-23-13 | 06:53 AM
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10-23-13 | 07:50 AM
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A gun would have converted this to a pathetic old coot lying dead on the road, and, if the press had nothing better to do, a national firestorm and backlash against concealed carry.
Think about it.
One more thing. I don't think the image of cyclists trying to kick his door in will garner jury sympathy at what should have been a slam-dunk civil suit for damages.
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10-23-13 | 08:30 AM
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I dunno. As it is, you have an old coot who most likely lose his license, pay some fines, get sued for bike replacement, and possibly serve time.
A gun would have converted this to a pathetic old coot lying dead on the road, and, if the press had nothing better to do, a national firestorm and backlash against concealed carry.
Think about it.
A gun would have converted this to a pathetic old coot lying dead on the road, and, if the press had nothing better to do, a national firestorm and backlash against concealed carry.
Think about it.
Don't agree. It could have ended badly if the old man with the bat would have attacked and the cyclist had nothing to protect himself with (gun, knife etc.). The cyclist could have had a gun and not shot him, but have it handy in case the guy with the bat came at him.
Agree with you on this. That was very ******y of those cyclists. It shows that they were actually scared of him and when he got back in his car they acted all macho kicked with their little clips.. lame. I would not follow suit based on this video. Gives a bad rep to cyclists.
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10-23-13 | 08:44 AM
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10-23-13 | 08:58 AM
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Having tried to kick a door while the car was moving, I can appreciate that we don't always make wise decisions when we are angry.
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10-23-13 | 09:05 AM
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Don't agree. It could have ended badly if the old man with the bat would have attacked and the cyclist had nothing to protect himself with (gun, knife etc.). The cyclist could have had a gun and not shot him, but have it handy in case the guy with the bat came at him.
Agree with you on this. That was very ******y of those cyclists. It shows that they were actually scared of him and when he got back in his car they acted all macho kicked with their little clips.. lame. I would not follow suit based on this video. Gives a bad rep to cyclists.
Agree with you on this. That was very ******y of those cyclists. It shows that they were actually scared of him and when he got back in his car they acted all macho kicked with their little clips.. lame. I would not follow suit based on this video. Gives a bad rep to cyclists.
Right, wrong...doesn't matter, I'd be tempted to do the same thing...
10-23-13 | 09:32 AM
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^^^Its not like the bastard didn't have assets he could liquidate. The truck, for example.
Of course, its value would drop with a kicked-in door
Of course, its value would drop with a kicked-in door
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10-23-13 | 09:38 AM
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Now just imagine cycling alone at dawn when a similar nut approaches from behind!
Years later, we'd all be wondering just exactly what caused your untimely fate.
Years later, we'd all be wondering just exactly what caused your untimely fate.
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10-23-13 | 10:01 AM
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Insecure driver + giant metal cocoon + yuppies in spandex + zero driver context about cycling + Texas = the video you see here. Some people literally lose their minds where they're in a car and see a yuppie wearing spandex. They can't take it and react in unpredictable ways.
I'll make some guess about these drivers' mentality:
They believe cyclists are insane.
They believe that they are being inconvenienced by lawbreaking cyclists who have no "right" to be on the road.
They don't get why cyclists "have to ride in groups".
They don't get why cyclists don't constrain cycling to sidewalks and bike paths.
To them, cyclists are possibly gay weirdos who wear superhero costumes while riding around on toys and aren't man enough to do a "real sport".
Cyclists become inhuman in their minds. They're not real people and don't deserve to be treated with respect or even safety. If cyclists die, they had it coming.
I'll make some guess about these drivers' mentality:
They believe cyclists are insane.
They believe that they are being inconvenienced by lawbreaking cyclists who have no "right" to be on the road.
They don't get why cyclists "have to ride in groups".
They don't get why cyclists don't constrain cycling to sidewalks and bike paths.
To them, cyclists are possibly gay weirdos who wear superhero costumes while riding around on toys and aren't man enough to do a "real sport".
Cyclists become inhuman in their minds. They're not real people and don't deserve to be treated with respect or even safety. If cyclists die, they had it coming.