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Old 01-08-14, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
road bikes are a lot more durable than many people think. Look at any VeloPromo road race.
Fixed it for you.
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Originally Posted by caloso
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
So true. I don't understand why some people drive heavy duty trucks and SUVs and then creep slowly over speed bumps in parking lots...or slow doen to an almost stop to go through a pothole
Probably because the wheels on those things cost a small fortune.
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Originally Posted by bleui

I tought I read somewhere from a pro team mechanic that bikes for a paris roubaix is a one-off, you can't use it again because the high speed riding on cobblestone put too much stress on it
That type of riding is 10 times harder than regular road riding. So if you've ridden your road bike 10 times on more ordinary roads, it's toast. I'm willing to handle the disposal of your old bike for no charge...
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Originally Posted by bleui
I tought I read somewhere from a pro team mechanic that bikes for a paris roubaix is a one-off, you can't use it again because the high speed riding on cobblestone put too much stress on it
This is actually true and it's been said more than once in interviews and videos.

-BUT-

It isn't because the bikes are toast after the 1 ride, it's because these same bikes have ridden all of the early-season classics and by the end of the Roubaix are pretty beat up. Also, when the paycheck for winning one of these races is $1 million+, spending $25k on a new bike seems like a no brainer.
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@OP, if you are worried, then buy what you can afford to replace, not what you can afford to buy. From reading about bike maintenance and purchasing, the unanimous advice/opinion I've read has been, don't get attached to your bike and components. Buy it knowing it will wear out or may break. Buy what you can replace and not cry if it does break.

Originally Posted by Looigi
Marty can get away with that because he's riding a $15,000 Colnago. Try that on some cheap $10,000 bike and it'll fall apart.
Marty can get away with that cause he's a professional, hall of fame cyclists, and can wreck as many bikes as he wants.

Originally Posted by EdIsMe
This is actually true and it's been said more than once in interviews and videos.

-BUT-

It isn't because the bikes are toast after the 1 ride, it's because these same bikes have ridden all of the early-season classics and by the end of the Roubaix are pretty beat up. Also, when the paycheck for winning one of these races is $1 million+, spending $25k on a new bike seems like a no brainer.

Read this too. But they can get away with it because if you're racing Paris Roubaix you already have multiple spares and sponsored. Specialized isn't going to blink having to supply more bikes to their sponsored race teams...

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Originally Posted by Beatofmyowndrum
I've been doing some bike research and test rides and I guess my question is this:
Are road bikes that much more fragile than hybrids?
I wonder.... if there was a different question in there somewhere. Like... this is what I am hoping to do with a bicycle... what would be some good options in a bicycle that I should look at?

It doesn't matter how durable a road bike is... or isn't if you're planning on riding the mountain bike trails. A road bike constructed and equipped for racing... won't be so useful [as other road bikes] if your planning on do a little credit card touring.

For the types of cycling I do... I have what I think is the perfect bicycle. But then again... that requires me to have more than one bicycle. But I wouldn't call any of them fragile.

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Old 01-08-14, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RJM
Yes they are fragile, but not the steel ones. Steel rules all.
I bent my steel framed Panasonic hit a concrete parking block in a dark parking lot. I don't know if my carbon frame would have faired any better and I don't want to find out.
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Originally Posted by zymphad
Marty can get away with that cause he's a professional, hall of fame cyclists, and can wreck as many bikes as he wants.
Total damage for road bike party 1: A couple of pinch flats and a scratched shifter. He can get away with because he's ok with crashing the bike, not because its likely to happen.

Road bikes in general are more durable than road bike riders. Rarely is there a crash with significant bike damage that doesn't also involve significant rider damage.
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I crashed my Lynskey with Dura Ace 9000 at about 20 mph. Hit a buckled piece of concrete and went over the bars. I looked up as I hit the pavement and saw my bike doing front flips down the road, then fell over on the drive side and slid for several feet. The only damage it took was a slightly bent derailleur and hangar, slightly scratched shifter lever, and scuffed seat. Very, very minor. As for me, well I was pretty effed up. destroyed my gloves, and shredded my knee and elbow.
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Road bike frames are not fragile, but road bike wheels can be if they have low spoke counts. Also, the skinny tires on road bikes don't offer much shock absorption, so due to that, the wheels receive quite a bit more punishment.
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Originally Posted by Beatofmyowndrum
Thanks! Good to know. I've just read so many threads saying things like "I wouldn't buy a road bike with all these potholes" etc.....
There is good reason for some people not riding a road bike on road with lots of potholes but it's not because road bike is fragile. But rather, for comfort and to some extent handling issue because road bike generally can't be fitted with larger tires, which helps smoothing out the ride.
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Old 01-09-14, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gsa103
Road bikes in general are more durable than road bike riders.
Yep. The truth. Yet so many people worry about damaging their bike and not think about themselves.
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Originally Posted by gus6464
The real question is would you buy a Corvette to ride it over a ton of potholes? If the answer is yes, then you have answered your own question.
You mean like Turn 1 at Sebring? I'm pretty confident that my kidneys will turn to jelly long before I break the Z51 suspension on my Corvette Which, by the way, uses carbon composite springs (so much for carbon composite being inherently fragile).

A well designed road bike in the 16lb range is surprisingly durable and designed to be ridden hard over imperfect surfaces for many miles. Many bikes in that range can even survive the rigors of Cyclocross racing. Now, if you go weight-weenie and start pushing down into the sub 14lb range, you start eliminating much of your design margin and drastically increase the odds of stress and fatigue failures. But even in that case, high frequency road buzz is as likely to cause the failure as relatively intermittent high impulse loads.
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I did a sliding crash into a car door once which caused $900 worth of damage. My bike was undamaged and other than a few scrapes I was fine too. Therefore I conclude car doors are more fragile than road bikes.
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Originally Posted by Up North
That's a $25,000.00 bike he is riding not $15,000.00 it's $10,000.00 stronger I'm sure!
Cute, but it is actually and literally a $15,000 bike. There's an article around somewhere on the net about the build. Between the frame, group, wheels and other components is was 15k. In Road Bike Party 1, he uses a $10k Pinarello.
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In his latest video he uses a $24,900.00 bike according to write up someone cut and pasted on here someplace.
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fragile?

only if made of carbon.
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Road bikes shouldn't be called "fragile", but they are less burly than a mountain bike because road bike designers value light weight over durability.

If you're using it for commuting on potholed roads, find a road bike that can fit wider tires and fenders so you have a more comfortable, drier ride. Like others said, road bike wheels with skinny tires can get damaged by potholes and curbs. Stronger rims with standard spoke counts (32 or more) will withstand commuting abuse much better than lightweight racing wheels.
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I tried a MTB trail on my road bike a few years ago. The front 700c-28 tire lasted about a minute, so that part is more fragile.

The wheels, being larger are not as sturdy as 26" wheels. High spoke count wheels are pretty solid though so that's not necessarily more fragile on a road bike, but possibly.

I'm more worried about banging and denting a road bike frame. Is that justified, I don't know, but I think that the tube walls are thinner to save weight and while they may be as strong structurally they're easier to crush.

For normal riding on roads or urban riding I doubt that road bikes are any more fragile.
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Originally Posted by hyhuu
There is good reason for some people not riding a road bike on road with lots of potholes but it's not because road bike is fragile. But rather, for comfort and to some extent handling issue because road bike generally can't be fitted with larger tires, which helps smoothing out the ride.
This was a good explanation. On a side note where are all these elusive potholes? Maybe I don't notice them because I'm in the comfort of my car but I feel like I never see giant holes that go straight to hell in the street! You guys should write your congressman about those...
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Fragility is relative. But if road bikes were as fragile as some claim, there's be long lines at the repair stand at every bike shop, and serious riders would have long ago moved on to some other design.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
So true. I don't understand why some people drive heavy duty trucks and SUVs and then creep slowly over speed bumps in parking lots...or slow doen to an almost stop to go through a pothole
They don't want to spill their beer.
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Originally Posted by Carbon Unit
I bent my steel framed Panasonic hit a concrete parking block in a dark parking lot. I don't know if my carbon frame would have faired any better and I don't want to find out.
I don't think you're supposed to ride right into those.
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considering the damage i have done to myself vs the the bikes, i wouldnt sweat it much.
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