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Old 02-23-14, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Not to be argumentative and with an authority like Michelin to boot, but thtose pressures seem a bit high by today's standards. Isn't there a formuma floating around that gives lower pressures?
Yes and what I say is use this as a starting point. Personally I use the number in the chart for R and drop by 5 for F.

BTW is that your pic next to the chart?
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Originally Posted by coasting
that chart is bunkham.
I had to look up the meaning. Was surprised it's named after a county in North Carolina:

[After Buncombe, a county of western North Carolina, from a remark made around 1820 by its congressman, who felt obligated to give a dull speech "for Buncombe".]
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Glad to see someone else is riding in the 75 - 90 psi range. Makes me cringe when I read about folks putting 140 psi in their tires. I compromise between rolling resistance and comfort, with a tilt towards comfort. Riding tubulars I can get away with slightly lower pressure.
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https://www.bikequarterly.com/images/TireDrop.pdf
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I ride 80/85, at +200#.

But I can't pinch flat.
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Originally Posted by SpeshulEd
This was the first thing I wanted to post. The second is a post from [MENTION=46002]Psimet2001[/MENTION] a few years ago:

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...tip-of-the-Day

Tire Width=20: Pressure(psi) = (0.33 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 63.33
Tire Width=23: Pressure(psi) = (0.33 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 53.33
Tire Width=25: Pressure(psi) = (0.33 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 43.33
Tire Width=28: Pressure(psi) = (0.33 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 33.33

Tire Width=32: Pressure(psi) = (0.17 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 41.67
Tire Width=37: Pressure(psi) = (0.17 * Rider Weight in lbs) + 26.67


Example: You are 150lbs running 28's

Pressure (psi) = (0.33*150) +33.33 = 82.83psi (rear)
Front Pressure = .9*Rear Pressure = .9*82.83psi = 74.55psi front
For me I run 90PSI up front and 100PSI in the back on 25C tires with a body weight of about 72KG. Seems to work well enough.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. I tried 105/110 PSI F/R today, off from my usual 120/120. N. Jersey roads were poop to begin with but 4 snow storms (or 5? I stopped counting...) and all the plowing, they turned into a veritable poop show with pot holes several feet across. I mean these roads would do the cobbles of the Koppenberg justice... Anyways, I really enjoyed the ride quality of the reduced pressure and I'll probably play around some more, maybe drop both tires by another 5 PSI. As always, you guys have been a great help. Thanks!
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What's the easiest way to determine the delta in efficiency as it relates to tire pressure? Buy a power meter? What if I'm running 23s on a wide wheel (23mm wheel on Flo 30s)?
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After reading this thread I tried lowering my tire pressure to 100psi from the usual 110 that I'd been running for years. Running ROL Race SLs(23mm wide) with Vittoria Zaffiro Pro 700x23s.
I like it - smoothes out the road a bit and doesn't seem to slow me down any.
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Those Michelin and PSImet pressure are still way too high for me. Both recommend 110-120 PSI given my weight, with no account for different weight on the front and rear tires.

I used the Tire Drop article, and my bathroom scale to determine the actual weight on both the front and rear tires. I came out in the 85-90 range for the front, and 95-100 for the rear. So I've been running 90/100 for some time on 25c tires.
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I bought a thin michelin tire and it's harder to pump up. I hope I put it in the rim correctly without any pinches but I got up to 90psi and then it got tough. The cheaper "normal" tires will pump to 120psi no problem.
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lower tire pressure. you won't regret it.
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Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94
Those Michelin and PSImet pressure are still way too high for me. <snip> no account for different weight on the front and rear tires.
The pressure formulas I posted were derived by taking Sheldon Brown's empirical data and drawing the regression curve for it. That's all. They are starting points and what works for everyone will vary. That said though I specifically state a Front at 90% of Rear on the formulas listed....which corresponds exactly with the spread you said you came up with for front/rear balance.

So....let's try this out from the start and make sure you got the formula correct to begin with. What size tires are you running and what is your weight?
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
So....let's try this out from the start and make sure you got the formula correct to begin with. What size tires are you running and what is your weight?
23mm and 160lbs. So approx 95/105. Will give it a shot today.
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