RJM

I used my regular old chain tool to install my 6800 chain; I didn't even know I was doing it wrong. Seems to work fine; installation went without a hitch.

Six jours

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

BoSoxYacht

It's ok, I don't really care what you think.

BoSoxYacht

I just glanced a your last 100 posts, and far more than 90% of them were just you trolling about **** you know little to nothing about.

Congratulations. You just made the ignore list.

bt

based on this threads answers, I'll be sticking with my 10 cog cassettes for the foreseeable future!

krobinson103

I have a 7,8, and 9 speed bikes. To be honest there really isn't much difference between them. The 9 speed has closer spacing but overall I don't ride in pace lines so it doesn't matter. I don't intended to buy 10 or 11 speed unless my other drive trains can no longer be repaired.

coasting 

given that 7 speed cassettes are still made, i wonder if 10 speed would actually become obsolete before I die. but if the shifters died, then replacing the shifter would be the time to go 11 speed. even that should just be buying new shifters right? rd should be the same. i guess chain is 11 speed specific.

coasting 

come to think about it, by then it will all be eletric shifting if not automatic shifting. just pedal and a computer will shift to the right gear combo back and front to maintain cadence.

krobinson103

Call me old fashioned but thats just more to go wrong. If a mechanical drive train breaks along the way I can usually fix it. Can't do that with an electronic one.

coasting 

i'm with you, grandpa. but we can't hold back the tide.

BoSoxYacht

Do you still use an abacus because a calculator is too complex to repair?

krobinson103

A calculator won't leave me in 53-14 120km from home with 4 big hills in the way.

BoSoxYacht

Let me guess, you ride a steel frame because carbon fiber is know to assplode while JRA.

Weatherby

13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 24, 28, 32 is what most riders need to stick in the back not 11-25 or 11-27.

Too bad they can't. All this talk about the extra sprocket is non-sense because there is little choice in gearing anymore, but we are going to get the computer to control our cadence so my old fart comment is moot.

I went from 10s Dura-Ace to 11s SRAM Red. SRAM works fine and is better shifting in my opinion.

Still like the shifter action/solid feel of the original 8s STI better.

lieven

I just went from 10 speed to 8 speed of which two I can't use due to front derailer related problems. That's 6 then. Didn't find anything to fault on yesterdays 140 km, + 1780 m ride.

seypat

+1000! There are still many places in the USA where the cell phone won't bail you out.

achoo

You've obviously never broken a REAL abacus.

eja_ bottecchia

Luddites!

Canadian_giant

10 speed, because that is what came with the bike. I only use the same 4 or 5 gears anyway so it's a non issue.

Jiggle

It won't.

BoSoxYacht

It all depends on the definition of obsolete.

Is the air-cooled VW Beetle obsolete?

coasting 

it's a lot more common than that! i can go to a bike shop and get a 7 speed cassette without too much trouble. maybe not all shops but enough of them have it.

BoSoxYacht

6speed freewheels are still made too, so bikes from the early 80s must not be obsolete.

RollCNY

Per the Wikipedia, VW air cooled engines were produced from 1936 through 2006 for automotive use, and are still in use in some light aircraft and industrial applications. So I would go with no. I would also like to see evidence of another engine design with a similar life span.

BoSoxYacht

That's the point I was making. How do you define obsolete?