Aero frames
06-09-14, 01:14 PM
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Aero frames
Are there any reasonably priced aero-optimized carbon frames on the market? Something similar to Cervelo S5 or BMC TMR01, but cheaper, under $2,000.
Giant Propel Advanced looks pretty good, MSRP $2300 but maybe I can find some deals closer to winter. Any others?
Giant Propel Advanced looks pretty good, MSRP $2300 but maybe I can find some deals closer to winter. Any others?
06-09-14, 01:18 PM
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correct me I'm wrong, but isn't geometry a bigger factor than the bike brand? doesn't matter how aero the frame is, all that R&D goes out the window once you put a human on it.
06-09-14, 01:25 PM
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I think boardman has an interesting Aero frame for cheap. It looks cool too. Not sure how it compares to the big brands. Then there is the dogma f8!
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I think boardman has an interesting Aero frame for cheap. It looks cool too. Not sure how it compares to the big brands. Then there is the dogma f8!
Dogma f8 is upwards of 5 grand for the frameset.
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06-09-14, 01:56 PM
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You're right that the rider creates more drag than the frame, but you're wrong to suppose the benefit of the frame disappears with a rider on board. Any reasonably fitting frame can duplicate a geometry so whatever frame is chosen, the rider drag is more or less the same. The question then is how much drag do you want to add from the frame supporting the rider in that position. You can use one that adds more or you can use one that adds less. There's no right answer, everyone will have different goals, desires, and abilities (including the ability to pay) .
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If you look around you'd still be able to in some previous model Cervelo S2's still on showroom floors.
Problem with complete aero frame bikes are that they are still fairly expensive...but come with entry level parts. If you're not hung up on new or buying complete...I'd look used.
Problem with complete aero frame bikes are that they are still fairly expensive...but come with entry level parts. If you're not hung up on new or buying complete...I'd look used.
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It's all about making a fashion statement about the kind of person you are. I have a cool looking aero frame bought NOS for a song.
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If you look around you'd still be able to in some previous model Cervelo S2's still on showroom floors.
Problem with complete aero frame bikes are that they are still fairly expensive...but come with entry level parts. If you're not hung up on new or buying complete...I'd look used.
Problem with complete aero frame bikes are that they are still fairly expensive...but come with entry level parts. If you're not hung up on new or buying complete...I'd look used.
I could go pre-owned, but the market looks pretty thin.
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Swapping frames would be the best bang for your buck. A clean S3 or CSC graphics SLC-SL would be awesome.
Only thing I don't like about aero frames is the proprietary seatposts. It took Cervelo years to come out with an adjustable (fore/aft) post for the 2013 and older S2/S3's.
Only thing I don't like about aero frames is the proprietary seatposts. It took Cervelo years to come out with an adjustable (fore/aft) post for the 2013 and older S2/S3's.
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How about buying a complete Felt AR5 for ~$2500 swapping on your components and selling the old SS frame and the removed parts for ~$1500. You could also do the same thing with a Cervelo S2 but it costs a bit more. Those two frames (plus the S3) are supposed to be the best riding aero road bikes on the market.
AR5 - Felt Bicycles
S2 Aero Road Bike - Cervélo
AR5 - Felt Bicycles
S2 Aero Road Bike - Cervélo
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I'm looking specifically for a frameset. I have a tricked-out Cannondale Supersix, I can probably take it apart, sell the frame on Craigslist, add another $1000 (hopefully less), get an aero frame and move all components onto it. Though it remains to be seen what's the most economical route.
I could go pre-owned, but the market looks pretty thin.
I could go pre-owned, but the market looks pretty thin.
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You can find an 07+ Cervelo Aero frame for VERY cheap. They haven't changed much if anything in their 2014 models, so it's a great buy in comparision.
06-09-14, 10:43 PM
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How about buying a complete Felt AR5 for ~$2500 swapping on your components and selling the old SS frame and the removed parts for ~$1500. You could also do the same thing with a Cervelo S2 but it costs a bit more. Those two frames (plus the S3) are supposed to be the best riding aero road bikes on the market.
AR5 - Felt Bicycles
S2 Aero Road Bike - Cervélo
AR5 - Felt Bicycles
S2 Aero Road Bike - Cervélo
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There are lots of changes - lighter weight, different stays to make the rear more compliant and comfortable, aero seat tube, and completely different geometry
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I have the Giant Propel Advanced and it's the best bike i've riden so far, comparing to bikes i've owned/riden> cannondale supersix di2, specialized tarmac, felt AR2
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My daughter made not so good video of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcRd...eature=mh_lolz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcRd...eature=mh_lolz
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My daughter made not so good video of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcRd...eature=mh_lolz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcRd...eature=mh_lolz
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