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Old 08-24-14, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by f4rrest
Exactly! I used to coat my BMX in this and it lasted for years.
I have used it for 40 years on my Italian Steel bike, the thing is immaculate and whisperingly quiet. I use it on the deraillures, the chain, the cog, the frame, the brakes. The only thing I don't use it on are the bearings back when they weren't cassette.
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KOPS as the best starting point would be another myth.

A pound off the wheels is worth two off the bike.
I only propose KOPS as the best starting point because I don't know any other. I would love to know something that would be closer from the outset to most folks eventually preferred saddle position.
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Originally Posted by SumoMuffin
Kittel is a top pro because the guy can sprint like nobody else. Not because he is winning stages on descents. Races are not won because physics allows a heavier rider to go faster downhill. This whole argument is dumb, because road cycling relies on so much more than basic physics. Yet people on the internet regularly argue over pointless stuff like this.
Trust me, I'd rather be riding this morning if I could.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
I have used it for 40 years on my Italian Steel bike, the thing is immaculate and whisperingly quiet. I use it on the deraillures, the chain, the cog, the frame, the brakes. The only thing I don't use it on are the bearings back when they weren't cassette.
Don't forget to clean the tires and seat with it... or Armor All.

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myth: just about anything said about ankle angle and "ankling"
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
I have used it for 40 years on my Italian Steel bike, the thing is immaculate and whisperingly quiet. I use it on the deraillures, the chain, the cog, the frame, the brakes. The only thing I don't use it on are the bearings back when they weren't cassette.
Just checking: you're not suggesting that WD-40 has kept your original chain and cogs in good working order for 40 years? Since those parts are consumables, it doesn't much matter what you lube them with. You may have to replace them sooner instead of later, but if you do that, the function of the bike won't be affected. And a light, spray lube like WD-40 is perfect for everything else. So yes, WD-40 could easily be the only lubricant you use on a bike, and quite successfully. But perhaps not without some compromises regarding chain and cog life.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Just checking: you're not suggesting that WD-40 has kept your original chain and cogs in good working order for 40 years? Since those parts are consumables, it doesn't much matter what you lube them with. You may have to replace them sooner instead of later, but if you do that, the function of the bike won't be affected. And a light, spray lube like WD-40 is perfect for everything else. So yes, WD-40 could easily be the only lubricant you use on a bike, and quite successfully. But perhaps not without some compromises regarding chain and cog life.
Perhaps he hasn't actually ridden the Italian Steel Bike much over 40 years. Just sprays and polishes it.
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Originally Posted by f4rrest
Don't forget to clean the tires and seat with it... or Armor All.

<lol / sarcasm / cya>
Hell, I even gargle with the stuff.
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Originally Posted by ConGrUenCy
You missed the main factor- position on the bike.
No I didn't I can change my position to match anybody who I am riding with, lets see you change tire , tubes or hubs rolling down the hill.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
Hell, I even gargle with the stuff.
It also repels dogs and bears. You can either point and shoot, or just coat your skin before you ride (as you would with DEET).

I'd go for the skin coating, since it also prevents sun damage and cancer.
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Originally Posted by f4rrest
Perhaps he hasn't actually ridden the Italian Steel Bike much over 40 years. Just sprays and polishes it.
How long have you been riding for?
This bike has gone to the moon and back in distance.


And rpen, Yes I have gone through many cogs and chains as well as being on the second Grouppo ( Campy centaur). Point is the myth that it is a poor choice for a chain is just that, a myth.
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Originally Posted by f4rrest
It also repels dogs and bears. You can either point and shoot, or just coat your skin before you ride (as you would with DEET).

I'd go for the skin coating, since it also prevents sun damage and cancer.
It's a good laxative as well as a good anti-pimple medication, just spray it on.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
How long have you been riding for?
This bike has gone to the moon and back in distance.


And rpen, Yes I have gone through many cogs and chains as well as being on the second Grouppo ( Campy centaur). Point is the myth that it is a poor choice for a chain is just that, a myth.
That looks an awful lot like the Blue Steel Bike I had in high school a few decades ago. I always wondered what happened to it.
Nice to know it went to a good home.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
It's a good laxative as well as a good anti-pimple medication, just spray it on.
Now you tell me! Great. Wish my doc would have told me this instead of that uber-expensive stuff they prescribed.
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Originally Posted by SumoMuffin
Kittel is a top pro because the guy can sprint like nobody else. Not because he is winning stages on descents. Races are not won because physics allows a heavier rider to go faster downhill. This whole argument is dumb, because road cycling relies on so much more than basic physics. Yet people on the internet regularly argue over pointless stuff like this.
Maybe I'm missing something but wasn't the myth that was proposed was that the heavier rider descends faster? Winning a race or being a top pro doesn't really have anything to do with it, but the poster was saying that it is a myth that a heavier rider goes down faster. It's not really a myth. I think it is pretty obvious that all things being equal, the heavier rider will go down a hill faster.
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About the pedaling in circles myth, well, it seems obvious that attempting to maintain a perfect circle is not the best way for human legs to maximize power output, but it does seem that smoothness is more efficient in the long run, and it must be healthier in terms of wear and tear.

But speaking of myths and science, who here has read Bicycling Science by David Gordon Wilson? Looks like a hefty tome, and it's published by an academic press, so I'm wondering if it is in any way engaging to read. Unfortunately, the sample chapter was the first, on history, so it's hard to tell how dry or head-spinning the actual science might get.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
How long have you been riding for?
This bike has gone to the moon and back in distance.


And rpen, Yes I have gone through many cogs and chains as well as being on the second Grouppo ( Campy centaur). Point is the myth that it is a poor choice for a chain is just that, a myth.
Agreed. As in all cases of multi-purpose, some of the applications are better than others, but it is a great one can solution to bike upkeep.
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Originally Posted by f4rrest
Now you tell me! Great. Wish my doc would have told me this instead of that uber-expensive stuff they prescribed.
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Originally Posted by RJM
Maybe I'm missing something but wasn't the myth that was proposed was that the heavier rider descends faster? Winning a race or being a top pro doesn't really have anything to do with it, but the poster was saying that it is a myth that a heavier rider goes down faster. It's not really a myth. I think it is pretty obvious that all things being equal, the heavier rider will go down a hill faster.
probably right. it's unlikely that that extra effort no one argues with that it takes to get to the top, somehow magically dissipates on the decent.
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Originally Posted by f4rrest
That looks an awful lot like the Blue Steel Bike I had in high school a few decades ago. I always wondered what happened to it.
Nice to know it went to a good home.
Bu the way, that is one of the prettiest bikes I have ever seen.
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