arodr42

I've been interesting in the Caad10 Sram Rival disc bike. To me the frame really stands out but I need a little more insight on the components. There hasnt been alot of reviews on this bike. Does anyone own this bike or has ridden this bike? What are your insights on it? Any feedback would be appreciated!

bt

looks great except for the mountain bike brakes.

tekhna

CAAD10: thumbs up
Rival: thumbs up
Disc brakes: eh

JeremyLC

I test rode one and really liked the ride. I didn't like the SRAM shifting, though. The LBS tuned it up and let me try again and it was MUCH better, but it still had a noticable lash/clunk/jerk at the pedals when shifting.

If hadn't tried a BMC TeamMachine on a lark that same day, the Cannondale would've gone home with me, though. I think even the modern Shimano stuff shifts more abruptly than the bar-ends I'm used to, which is why I noticed it so much with the SRAM.

(the BMC did go home with me )

I'll point out that this was in February and I had been waiting since October to get to ride the CAAD10.

rms13

I'd rather have shimano with caliper than sram with discs.

arodr42

Why isn't anybody so fond of the disc brakes?

tekhna

I think people

a) resent that the push for disc brakes seems to largely be driven by marketing needs
b) understand that disc brakes on road bike are only useful in very specific situations (i.e. riding in the rain a lot, running carbon rims)
c) think rim brakes basically work, are lighter, and more aerodynamic, so why bother?
d) disc brakes require marginally more maintenance and may be worse than rim brakes in some circumstances, like long descents.

rms13

All this.

Most people want to reduce weight on road bikes as much as possible and new technology like discs as well as electronic shifting are adding weight to the bike. But for me, good calipers like mid to high end Shimano or SRAM have never had a problem stopping me even on very fast descents. If I was bigger like 200+ lbs or riding in very wet and rainy conditions or snow I might consider discs but I live in SoCal. You being in Chicago might see more benefit.

bonz50

cept no hills to speak of here.

arodr42

Yeah there's no hills in this region and I'm 140 lbs. I don't think the disc breaks would benefit me. What about the rest of the bike? Does it seem like a good offer? For 2000 or am I better off with Shimano?

bonz50

not really a question of whether or not you'd be better off with shimano, its more about which is most comfortable for you to ride with. the disc brakes aren't a deal breaker either direction, if you like Rival, get it. if you like Shimano then for about the same price get the Ultegra version. simple. if you like the idea of disc get it.

rms13

I was thinking more about riding in inclement weather there

rms13

Or if you like Shimano, you should look at the 105 version since it's the entry level and going to be a few hundred less than the Ultegra or SRAM. Also the disc version and Ultegra aren't going to fit in your $1500 price range. You may find last years's Ultegra for that. Ultegra is going to be $500-600 more than 105 and save less than 1lb.

bonz50

meh, mostly to damn cold when its raining here. I can probably count on 1 hand the number of foul weather riders I've seen on local bike routes over the past 4-5 yrs, for some reason they just don't do it. on a commuter bike I could see it a bit more, in the cannondale lineup I'd be more inclined to get a synapse alloy disc, it has eyelets for racks and fenders, much more commute friendly and commuters are about the only foul weather riders around here. granted, I'm in the north 'burbs, not city, and commute when I can.

bonz50

i don't disagree, if I was buying a CAAD the 105 bike would be my first choice, its a great bike.

arodr42

Yesterday I did a ride test on all three bikes. I did a tests ride on the Sram Rival disc, 105, and ultegra. I wasn't a fan of the shifting in the Sram. Although it looks great i didn't feel comfortable in the shifting. As for 105, I loved it and didn't feel a difference vs Ultegra. This could be only because the difference wasn't as much as for the Sram but Shimano feels smoother for me.

bonz50

and the money you save on the 105 bike can be used for accessories (pedals, computer, wedge pack, pump, spare tubes, etc), dollar for dollar the 105 might be the best group on the market if you like the feel of it. good luck, helluva nice bike, pics when you get it!!

tekhna

Shimano always "feels smoother" compared to SRAM or Campy because of the spring tension. SRAM shifting takes some getting used to. I just effing hate the brake lever as shifter of Shimano.

arodr42

I kind of don't like it either it takes too much too think lol but it might just take time to get used to

hueyhoolihan

it's just a fad...

they may change their minds eventually.

UnfilteredDregs

It'll take no time at all, make sure you adjust the lever reach to suit your hands. On Ultegra you can shorten the stroke by 10mm, hopefully 105 has the same adjustment. People who complain about the brake/shift combo tend to not have the lever reach, and STI position on the bars, adjusted correctly.

rms13

I hate using the same lever for up and down shift...especially when it works like garbage. I had Apex on an old bike. No amount of tuning made the FD shift right. I even had two LBS mechanics tune it, just to make sure it wasn't me. No matter what anyone did the down and up shifts only seems to work 70% of the time at best. All of my Shimano (even going back to 600) shift the FD 100% of the time. I've heard the YAW FD fixes a lot for SRAM but it's pretty pricey.

If I wanted an alternative I would look at Microshift before SRAM. Microshift has the dedicated brake lever but still has separate up and down paddles...or Campy of course. But using 4 different sets of Shimano brifters, I have never once accidentally shifted when braking or accidentally broke while shifting. The Shimano design just works. I truly believe SRAM road groups would have disappeared from the market by now if it wasn't for the fact that Red is so light. And now that so many pro teams have dropped SRAM and bike manufactures have greatly cut the amount of SRAM equipped bikes they are offering SRAM better nail their wireless group.