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Almost hot, needs a different saddle (Flite preferably on that kind of bike), and silver spokes and hubs.
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It's a fancy schmancy 100th anniversary Selle Italia Century saddle (period correct and all), but I'm kind of with you on the looks... A flite would look better. Debated the spoke/hub color but went with black and gold nipples. It's all subjective anyhoo...
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Indeed, I'd go further than that: people who think a non-levelled saddle is okay, fine or even perfect either don't have a clue or they don't do long distances. I've often challenged them to find me one pro rider who does not level his saddle.
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What surpised me is the slight nose high angle that works for me with Selle Italia Flite saddles. Level just doesn’t work, and I have a 13cm saddle-bar drop
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Since the UCI relaxed the rules in 2015 to 9 degrees nose down, I'd say at least half the pros ride with tilted down saddle
https://youtu.be/69OzE3KB2IY
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Also, the video explains how they slightly tilt the saddle down because it gives comfort in combination with the extreme saddle to bars drop these pros run. "Caliwilde" hardly has any drop at all
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Then why do you post a photo of a pro bike with a levelled saddle? On that Trek in only looks tilted down because of the sloping top tube and the bike stand.
Also, the video explains how they slightly tilt the saddle down because it gives comfort in combination with the extreme saddle to bars drop these pros run. "Caliwilde" hardly has any drop at all
Also, the video explains how they slightly tilt the saddle down because it gives comfort in combination with the extreme saddle to bars drop these pros run. "Caliwilde" hardly has any drop at all
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Remember, this was the post i was responding to
I'm not here to argue what saddle tilt is correct, but absolute statements like yours are foolish.
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"Show me one pro rider who rides a tilted down saddle."
"Here are several."
"No not like that."
"Here are several."
"No not like that."
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The cheap carbon bars I'm using may also be a factor; the flex of the bars and stem combined was ridiculous. But I replaced the Kalloy stem with a 20g heavier Zipp one, and now I'm happy with it.
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