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Old 05-31-22, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
Maybe they can change 105 to Modegra for "Moderate Integrity."

it is indeed a fine groupset, the groupset for the people.
It should be Ultiva.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Waiting for the Coloradans to chime in…
IKR. On a group ride out there, there was some route discussion wherein a couple of folks expressed the desire to take x route to avoid y hill. Knowing the hills that they where talking about, even I, as a self-identified flatlander, had to chuckle.

That said, there are enough curves, undulations and changes of scenery to make it a nice area to ride. If only more of their roads had actual shoulders...
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Waiting for the Coloradans to chime in…
You're not far from some hills. Anything to add?
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Originally Posted by datlas
Maybe they can change 105 to Modegra for "Moderate Integrity."

it is indeed a fine groupset, the groupset for the people.
Wow, I've never been so insulted.

Yes, pauper status, but do you have to remind me?
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Originally Posted by datlas
Fixed, possibly. I think we called it 600 or 600EX back then. Yes?
It was 600 and I think the Ultegra name was just starting. Like "Ultegra 600". A friend has that bike in Oxnard. I should go visit them and I could look at it and check.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
It should be Ultiva.
How about Ultra Ace?

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At last - my baking/pizza steel has shipped. I ordered the damn thing more than a week ago.
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Originally Posted by big john
It was 600 and I think the Ultegra name was just starting. Like "Ultegra 600". A friend has that bike in Oxnard. I should go visit them and I could look at it and check.
i had 600 on a Bianchi SLX I bought in, I think, '91. Got hit by a car a couple of year later and replaced the bike with a Guerciotti. I think they had started using the Ultegra name, but I am not certain.
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Water heater being replaced tomorrow. Looks like the planned tour is still on. *gulp*
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Water heater being replaced tomorrow. Looks like the planned tour is still on. *gulp*
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Originally Posted by datlas
Fun fact: "Ultegra" was derived from "Ultimate Integrity."
You can feel it, I swear!
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Wow, I've never been so insulted.

Yes, pauper status, but do you have to remind me?
105 is really mid-range. Tiagra is entry level.

Sora, Claris, and Tourney are the true Shimano pauper groupsets.
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Old 05-31-22, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rjones28
105 is really mid-range. Tiagra is entry level.

Sora, Claris, and Tourney are the true Shimano pauper groupsets.
Agree. 105 is really good and functionally nearly as good as D-A and Ultegra.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
You can feel it, I swear!
You know, I was never enthusiastic about my Ultegra 6700 (maybe because it was always chewing up RD shift cables), but the R8000 I now have is really good IMO. So I CAN feel it.
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Yesterday's century gave me a good start on staying atop the leaderboard. I don't know if I can keep it up because work.
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Originally Posted by datlas
You know, I was never enthusiastic about my Ultegra 6700 (maybe because it was always chewing up RD shift cables), but the R8000 I now have is really good IMO. So I CAN feel it.
Yeah, the 6800 levers work well but eat cables at only a slightly lower rate, so I know what you mean. Maybe you're feeling that 11th cogwheel too.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
At last - my baking/pizza steel has shipped. I ordered the damn thing more than a week ago.
Mrs. rjones28 just made a batch of pizza dough. It made enough for about a dozen 14" inch-ish pies, so they got frozen for future use. She plans to use her 15" carbon steel paella pan. Most of the summer pizza baking will take place on the grill.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Yeah, the 6800 levers work well but eat cables at only a slightly lower rate, so I know what you mean. Maybe you're feeling that 11th cogwheel too.
I honestly don't care about 10 vs 11 speed. And I don't mind changing a shift lever annually. But the 6700 would chew a cable every 2500 miles which is 3x/year for me. That's ridiiculous.

How often does you have to change your 6800 RD cable??
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Hey MoAlpha I have a work question.

I know that anticholinergics have been implicated in possibly contributing to dementia, it's plausible and the mechanism makes sense.

I have always hated most drugs with strong anticholinergic effects like the overactive "gotta go right now" bladder drugs and tricyclic antidepressants.

But today, a patient who is a retired ENT and on long-term paxil (paroxetine) said he wants to consider getting off this because of his concerns of it contributing to dementia (which he does NOT have). I did not really consider it to be a potent anticholinergic, care to opine??
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
At last - my baking/pizza steel has shipped. I ordered the damn thing more than a week ago.
Why a steel stone versus a stone stone?
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
i had 600 on a Bianchi SLX I bought in, I think, '91. Got hit by a car a couple of year later and replaced the bike with a Guerciotti. I think they had started using the Ultegra name, but I am not certain.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
105 is really mid-range. Tiagra is entry level.

Sora, Claris, and Tourney are the true Shimano pauper groupsets.
Originally Posted by datlas
Agree. 105 is really good and functionally nearly as good as D-A and Ultegra.
Well, okay, if you say so.

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Originally Posted by big john
It was 600 and I think the Ultegra name was just starting. Like "Ultegra 600". A friend has that bike in Oxnard. I should go visit them and I could look at it and check.
Ultegra, replaced 600. As in the name.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
105 is really mid-range. Tiagra is entry level.

Sora, claris, and tourney are the true shimano pauper groupsets.
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