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06-26-17, 06:25 AM
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Rev, I put my 10-year-old Arundel Dave-Os on my Allez Sprint. If I wanted to spend the money on new cages, I'd get Mandibles, which I have on my Argon.
At this point, I don't think I'd get any cage other than an Arundel. They're expensive, but they work incredibly well and last a long time. Those Dave-Os have survived multiple crashes - including one collision with a car.
At this point, I don't think I'd get any cage other than an Arundel. They're expensive, but they work incredibly well and last a long time. Those Dave-Os have survived multiple crashes - including one collision with a car.
06-26-17, 07:22 AM
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... uh, in case unclear, it's because it's hard to get the bottles out of those cages.
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06-26-17, 07:42 AM
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Mandibles are the one I wouldn't put on and I ride a lot of incredibly rough roads.
Frame size and mount placement factor in to a greater amount than most will recognize. Add to that how new and unmarked, thus slippery, you insist all your bottles be.
Frame size and mount placement factor in to a greater amount than most will recognize. Add to that how new and unmarked, thus slippery, you insist all your bottles be.
06-26-17, 09:29 PM
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New Campy Hiddenset showed up today. I get the Campagnolo mystique in this part and this part alone. There just isn't anything special about bike parts these days. This is uncommonly good. Bike falling over because there's no friction keeping the bars from rotating good.
07-05-17, 04:04 PM
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I normally just hold onto the handlebars and .my butt is honestly to narrow and my sit bones too sharp for any sensation approximating holding onto something back there. Yes on the stem. Never seen the saddle
You know exactly what I meant and by no means is that headset a boutique part like the ones you mention. I'd rate the THM fork on my bike as special too, but not boutique special like a Clavicula crank. Special because of how well it works not how special I feel because I own a boutique part.
You know exactly what I meant and by no means is that headset a boutique part like the ones you mention. I'd rate the THM fork on my bike as special too, but not boutique special like a Clavicula crank. Special because of how well it works not how special I feel because I own a boutique part.
07-13-17, 04:14 PM
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The Extralite is 60% (82g) the mass of an equivalent stem. The same performance, 40% less mass.
For me, the same function for 40% lighter means - it works better.
Like a 12 lb bike vs a 20 lb bike that are both as stiff, I say the 12lb works better than the 20lb bike.
07-13-17, 04:39 PM
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Oddly enough I feel an ounce of prevention better in most circumstances. Irrelevant as it may be in a theoretical conversation, I have broken a great many things by leveraging physics in ways that didn't rely totally on gravity. Though I could certainly go the bespoke route, or merely boutique, building a bike up. I live in the real world where that which might act to make me special. Man hasn't yet found a way to buy, bottle, or beget.
07-13-17, 05:21 PM
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Friend put one on his WW amalgam of many current trends bike he built. I oohed, I aahed, I put it on the scale and stared at the tiny little number, I stood there while he torqued it down and then I rode it a bit.
As much as you try to derail my train of thought. That stem is of very limited interest. Whereas I could walk into any bike shop and say "Campy headset" with a good chance they'd have one or order it immediately and easily. Not much in the greater bike world still has that level of quality and consistency worthy of mentioning a half century on from making a name for itself.
As much as you try to derail my train of thought. That stem is of very limited interest. Whereas I could walk into any bike shop and say "Campy headset" with a good chance they'd have one or order it immediately and easily. Not much in the greater bike world still has that level of quality and consistency worthy of mentioning a half century on from making a name for itself.
07-13-17, 05:23 PM
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I just called the shop down the road and asked after an Extra-Lite stem. Do you really want to know what their reply was? Hint: not Extra-Lite. 
07-13-17, 05:43 PM
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Did you ask them if they held one?
I mean you are all into function/works and argue with me over something seems you know little about. Then you call a shop - why would they know anything about it?
If they held one, how many have they had returned broken? True - they have T20 Ti bolts that if you do not torque to spec, you might break them - the bolts. If you do install to spec, they are good for Paris Roubaix. My kid does MTB rides on his road bike with them.
But yea - there are lots of special things in bike parts these days.
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07-13-17, 07:07 PM
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I am not a WW. The stuff I build with is stiffer and stronger than your stock World Tour bike.
I use a steel 24mm BB spindle.
I use steel pedal shafts and wider pedals.
I have extra BB setups for PF30 etc as it puts the bearings 30% wider.
I have the hub spokes wider.
If I wanted to cut more, I'd have to give up something. Yet, exactly the opposite of what you post I'm about ~12lbs is about where it comes out - without an Extralite stem.
...Whereas I could walk into any bike shop and say "Campy headset" with a good chance they'd have one or order it immediately and easily. Not much in the greater bike world still has that level of quality and consistency worthy of mentioning a half century on from making a name for itself.
As far as Italian manufacturing - in a short drive from Campy - Well yea there is. Extralite.
07-13-17, 08:31 PM
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Not that I see. 120mm is the largest stock. But it is stiffer, lighter and tougher.
Buy it and put it over the twin's bed. Give them something to aspire to. It is *special*.
Edit - Add. I'm not into this because of weight. There may be lighter, although that would be rare. It is just a *special* part. I started my life designing machine parts. I have parts on my desk that some machinist did that I think - are special. The Extralite parts are all that. I think they are reasonably priced. Knock 1/2 to a pound off your bike with their stem, seat post and GELU seat - or give it to the twins to play with.
I kept the post/seat combo in my trunk for two months. I saw the Chief Engineer at a SoCal aerospace company in a parking lot and called him over to hold it. After his initial, typical "this Doge guy is weird" he was amazed and called his CNC guy over. It is special stuff. That was my comment.
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Buy it and put it over the twin's bed. Give them something to aspire to. It is *special*.
Edit - Add. I'm not into this because of weight. There may be lighter, although that would be rare. It is just a *special* part. I started my life designing machine parts. I have parts on my desk that some machinist did that I think - are special. The Extralite parts are all that. I think they are reasonably priced. Knock 1/2 to a pound off your bike with their stem, seat post and GELU seat - or give it to the twins to play with.
I kept the post/seat combo in my trunk for two months. I saw the Chief Engineer at a SoCal aerospace company in a parking lot and called him over to hold it. After his initial, typical "this Doge guy is weird" he was amazed and called his CNC guy over. It is special stuff. That was my comment.
Extralite.JPG
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07-14-17, 12:29 AM
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Not that I see. 120mm is the largest stock. But it is stiffer, lighter and tougher.
Buy it and put it over the twin's bed. Give them something to aspire to. It is *special*.
Edit - Add. I'm not into this because of weight. There may be lighter, although that would be rare. It is just a *special* part. I started my life designing machine parts. I have parts on my desk that some machinist did that I think - are special. The Extralite parts are all that. I think they are reasonably priced. Knock 1/2 to a pound off your bike with their stem, seat post and GELU seat - or give it to the twins to play with.
I kept the post/seat combo in my trunk for two months. I saw the Chief Engineer at a SoCal aerospace company in a parking lot and called him over to hold it. After his initial, typical "this Doge guy is weird" he was amazed and called his CNC guy over. It is special stuff. That was my comment.
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Buy it and put it over the twin's bed. Give them something to aspire to. It is *special*.
Edit - Add. I'm not into this because of weight. There may be lighter, although that would be rare. It is just a *special* part. I started my life designing machine parts. I have parts on my desk that some machinist did that I think - are special. The Extralite parts are all that. I think they are reasonably priced. Knock 1/2 to a pound off your bike with their stem, seat post and GELU seat - or give it to the twins to play with.
I kept the post/seat combo in my trunk for two months. I saw the Chief Engineer at a SoCal aerospace company in a parking lot and called him over to hold it. After his initial, typical "this Doge guy is weird" he was amazed and called his CNC guy over. It is special stuff. That was my comment.
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I used their 120mm (can remember if it was -8 or -12*) stem--and even in that length it was plenty stiff for a hill climb with a sprint at the end.
They also make some great hubs that I used for -- gasp! -- mountain biking!
07-14-17, 06:26 AM
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Unfortunately, that Extralight stem isn't really all that stiff: Stem Review - Fairwheel Bikes Blog.
Though it does excel in stiffness to weight.
Though it does excel in stiffness to weight.
07-14-17, 03:45 PM
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Just bought another power2max. Don't currently have a bike to put it on, but a cross/gravel bike is in the works, so this should satiate that. So glad I've moved past the garmin vectors. Consistent numbers are great!
07-14-17, 06:50 PM
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Unfortunately, that Extralight stem isn't really all that stiff: Stem Review - Fairwheel Bikes Blog.
Though it does excel in stiffness to weight.
Though it does excel in stiffness to weight.
It is plenty stiff, about ideal paired with a carbon bar (ENVE SES - less special)
07-15-17, 08:14 PM
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I saw another Venge Vias Disc today during the race I did. 2nd one I've seen ridden in person.. Really like it a lot. I know without a doubt my next race bike will have disk brakes at this point. Whether it's a venge or not is a different story.
Then I was poking around on the 'gram and saw a comment from @specializedbikes that make me go look. They aren't selling the old venge vias anymore in 2018. They've gone completly to the disc model which is an interesting moment for the bike industry that the most popular aero superbike (from my small, personal smapling) no longer even offers a model with caliper brakes above the baseline.
Then I was poking around on the 'gram and saw a comment from @specializedbikes that make me go look. They aren't selling the old venge vias anymore in 2018. They've gone completly to the disc model which is an interesting moment for the bike industry that the most popular aero superbike (from my small, personal smapling) no longer even offers a model with caliper brakes above the baseline.
08-09-17, 03:34 PM
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Has anyone used the TRP hy/rd disc brakes? In the process of planning the cx bike build and these seem like a good option. Long term plan would be to use the Ultegra grouppo off of my road bike with the cross bike then buy a new road bike (also with discs) at the beginning of next race season. I'm pretty much all in on disc brakes at this point, only problem is shifters and wheels.
On that note if anyone has some T.A wheel reccomendations.. I've seen the Specialized axis and like those. Also seen the enve 4.5 AR's and really like those but $$$$.
On that note if anyone has some T.A wheel reccomendations.. I've seen the Specialized axis and like those. Also seen the enve 4.5 AR's and really like those but $$$$.
09-16-17, 12:48 PM
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Tubeless newb question here:
I took my MTB to get new sealant in my tires, and found that it went flat afterward. No biggie, just needs to be spun around a bit I thought. So I rode it around and the sealant didn't fill what it needed to - a leak right at the valve stem. I've tried tightening and moving around the little nut around the stem and inflating it multiple times, but it continues to leak right at the rim/stem interface.
Anyone have any pro tips for me? Could it be that it was installed improperly and/or I just need a new stem? I'd like to cover all my bases before I inconvenience myself with bringing it back to the shop.
Thanks,
Tmonk.
I took my MTB to get new sealant in my tires, and found that it went flat afterward. No biggie, just needs to be spun around a bit I thought. So I rode it around and the sealant didn't fill what it needed to - a leak right at the valve stem. I've tried tightening and moving around the little nut around the stem and inflating it multiple times, but it continues to leak right at the rim/stem interface.
Anyone have any pro tips for me? Could it be that it was installed improperly and/or I just need a new stem? I'd like to cover all my bases before I inconvenience myself with bringing it back to the shop.
Thanks,
Tmonk.
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09-16-17, 01:58 PM
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Tubeless newb question here:
I took my MTB to get new sealant in my tires, and found that it went flat afterward. No biggie, just needs to be spun around a bit I thought. So I rode it around and the sealant didn't fill what it needed to - a leak right at the valve stem. I've tried tightening and moving around the little nut around the stem and inflating it multiple times, but it continues to leak right at the rim/stem interface.
Anyone have any pro tips for me? Could it be that it was installed improperly and/or I just need a new stem? I'd like to cover all my bases before I inconvenience myself with bringing it back to the shop.
Thanks,
Tmonk.
I took my MTB to get new sealant in my tires, and found that it went flat afterward. No biggie, just needs to be spun around a bit I thought. So I rode it around and the sealant didn't fill what it needed to - a leak right at the valve stem. I've tried tightening and moving around the little nut around the stem and inflating it multiple times, but it continues to leak right at the rim/stem interface.
Anyone have any pro tips for me? Could it be that it was installed improperly and/or I just need a new stem? I'd like to cover all my bases before I inconvenience myself with bringing it back to the shop.
Thanks,
Tmonk.