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Old 10-13-22, 01:28 PM
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Hey Virginia people, if I ride from Charlottesville to the Southern part of Skyline Drive/Northern end of BRP, is it a better ride to turn right onto Skyline and head North, or turn left on the BRP and head south??

I havnt done it personally, but most of my friends go south, around stuart’s draft.
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Some recent routes from around the area.


If you are going for a few days, I highly recommend Skyland Resort. Went there all the time as a kid, very beautiful. That’s to the north though.
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I don’t have any funds at the moment. One day I will get a TI bike.
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p.s. no extra charge for the Saturn, plastic belongs on cars, not bike frames
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I know, but it's cheaper and more masculine than an e-bike.
And you actually do the Force x Distance!
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Originally Posted by datlas
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p.s. no extra charge for the Saturn, plastic belongs on cars, not bike frames
I thought only doctors and dentists could have such things. The bike, that is.
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I thought only doctors and dentists could have such things. The bike, that is.


Realize that bike frame is 13 years old now. So amortized cost is quite affordable, especially considering the frame was about $1200.

And the fancy Reynolds wheels were free, because....friends.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I don’t have any funds at the moment. One day I will get a TI bike.
Meh. Of all the bikes I have owned, the Ti one I had (Bianchi Ti Megatube, built by Litespeed) was one my least-favorites. There wasn't anything wrong with it, it was just un-exciting. I find the shape manipulations of current crabon bikes to be much more appealing. YMMV.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I think the trick is to get an e-bike that isn't obviously an e-bike. Of course, there's still the sound, but maybe one could cover that by not oiling the chain for a while....
My friend who got an e-bike because of heart issues also got one for his wife, although she does very well with a regular bike. They were higher end Turbo Creo and both were noisy. She heard Specialized might warranty the motor for excess noise and she was able to get an updated, much quieter motor. His still whirrs and whines.

He and I were climbing a steepish hill and it was quiet all around except for the motor. I told him it was annoying and he turned it off for about 30 seconds and then turned it back on. "That didn't last long" I said. He said he could leave it off but I would probably have to take him to the hospital when he had a heart attack. I told him to just leave it on.
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I finally got a 36 miler in. Hopefully it's the start of something big. It's my all time favorite loop, in these parts. One direction is mostly tailwind and the other is(of course) mostly headwind. I went the headwind direction today because I didn't have a plan starting out. Wanted to see how I felt after the first 10.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Meh. Of all the bikes I have owned, the Ti one I had (Bianchi Ti Megatube, built by Litespeed) was one my least-favorites. There wasn't anything wrong with it, it was just un-exciting. I find the shape manipulations of current crabon bikes to be much more appealing. YMMV.
Gotta say, the main thing I like about my Ti bike is that it's indestructible and I'm not afraid to lock to the rack at work. It's heavy and has a jarring ride on rough surfaces.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Gotta say, the main thing I like about my Ti bike is that it's indestructible and I'm not afraid to lock to the rack at work. It's heavy and has a jarring ride on rough surfaces.
If indestructible is a feature that's important in your choice of bicycles, Ti is a good call.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Hey Virginia people, if I ride from Charlottesville to the Southern part of Skyline Drive/Northern end of BRP, is it a better ride to turn right onto Skyline and head North, or turn left on the BRP and head south??
I gave you a good contact in C-Ville. He can answer your questions.
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I gave you a good contact in C-Ville. He can answer your questions.
Thanks for reminding me! I just PM'd him.
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These days I'm liking the ti bike more than before. Maybe because I stopped doing so many of the rides on bad pavement. The GP5000s may have helped with that, too. I've had it over 10 years and I've always loved the handling but it's very stiff.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I don’t have any funds at the moment. One day I will get a TI bike.
Some people I know who have had ti bikes have bought high end cf bikes and relegated the ti bikes to back-up duty.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
The last two rides, which I did on the Centurion Ironman that I got in 2021, have been distinctly unsatisfying. I'm not sure why, but it feels like I'm riding in molasses. I checked both F and R brakes, and they're not rubbing. I checked how easily they spin and while they're not the best hubs, they're not the worst either, and they have all new bearings and grease only last year. The gearing - 52/42 x 13-26 - isn't optimal, but it really should only impact me on hills. But even on the flat, it feels slow and sluggish and my average speeds reflect that. By contrast Sunday was really good! On a different bike, of course.

Anyhow, the Centurion has another chance this afternoon. We'll see.
I never got consistent results with my Ironman. It's currently hanging as a frame set.
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I honestly don't think Ti or CF or Al or Steel are inherently "good" or "bad" for bikes. I think the geometry and fit can make ANY frame material ride like a magic carpet OR a wet noodle. It's all in the construction/geometry/fit etc., plus wheels/tires make a big difference.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I think the trick is to get an e-bike that isn't obviously an e-bike. Of course, there's still the sound, but maybe one could cover that by not oiling the chain for a while....
Is it louder than carbon wheels? Yike!
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Originally Posted by datlas
I honestly don't think Ti or CF or Al or Steel are inherently "good" or "bad" for bikes. I think the geometry and fit can make ANY frame material ride like a magic carpet OR a wet noodle. It's all in the construction/geometry/fit etc., plus wheels/tires make a big difference.
Yes, but manufactured tubing doesn't give you anywhere near the design flexibility of a CFRP layup.
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As I understand it, 55 degrees in Buffalo is considered "shorts weather".
When I lived up north, 55 was shorts weather for me, a little colder even if the sun was out.

Now that I'm approaching 55 YO, I'm leaning more towards a 60-65° cutoff
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Originally Posted by genejockey
The Alabama part, where I grew up.

Mrs. GJ is still stuck on Buffalo, still waving away concerns about the cold and the snow. The other evening, it was about 55 degrees out, and she declared it was "FREEZING!!!". She REALLY doesn't remember cold.
There's always West Virginia. Almost as snowy as Buffalo and probably more banjos than Alabama

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...22457111_zpid/
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
There's always West Virginia. Almost as snowy as Buffalo and probably more banjos than Alabama

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...22457111_zpid/
That's an interesting sales pitch.
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Yes, but manufactured tubing doesn't give you anywhere near the design flexibility of a CFRP layup.
Yeah, but the proof is in the pudding....and plenty of Crabon bikes can ride rough or noodley, and I don't think you can always credit/blame the CF layup for how the frame behaves. It's a factor, but it's multifactorial/complicated. If you don't agree, we may have to take this out back to the 41.
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Yeah, but the proof is in the pudding....and plenty of Crabon bikes can ride rough or noodley, and I don't think you can always credit/blame the CF layup for how the frame behaves. It's a factor, but it's multifactorial/complicated. If you don't agree, we may have to take this out back to the 42.
The downside of flexibility is the opportunity to design really bad things, but "what's better?" threads always deliver and Winter is coming.
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Crap is starting already.

Mrs. rjones28 started her Winter training this week.
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