diphthong

been meaning to do that. hopefully this year. would like to discern if the north side of refugio dropping down is actually navigable by mortal road bikes
or some walking/much walking involved down to the santa ynez valley. helluva climb supposedly. my knees ache just thinking about it.

Timo 2.0

The Netherlands - Boswachterij Staphorst (Staphorst forestry)

jwh20

the sci guy 

some from the BP MS150 this past weekend

menkar

North side Refugio (a dirt road) is in great shape right now. I just rode down and back up yesterday on my gravel bike and it's certainly passable on a road bike or in a normal passenger car. It's a pretty good climb that gains 1500 feet in 3.3 miles. I tried to post photos but it now says I need at least 10 posts so something has changed on this site since my previous post. Here are url's to my Strava activities that have some photos of that road:

strava.com/activities/1437000974
strava.com/activities/1493346526
strava.com/activities/1546293325

mbw

diphthong

thanks for the intel. will be up there in 10 days for stage two of the atoc going up gibraltar but done gibraltar before.
will look to tackle both sides of refugio and amble over to el camino cielo and catch some of the race near the top of
gibraltar.

BigBoyd

Some great pictures here, hope I will be able to post some from my Japan trip coming up !

Nachoman

diphthong

^are you hitting kitchen creek again?

diphthong

thanks again. rode from the coast up refugio and over into the town of santa ynez then over san marcos pass back to goleta. blew off the atoc. lots of cyclists out
except in the refugio area. epic and worthy on both sides. descending north side not too bad. had 23's on my road bike but most would be happier with 25's or 28's.
i'd be reluctant to decend the west/ocean side on any size tire tho. pavement pretty beat up. even more so than the east/dirt side.

Fiery

Nachoman

Great call! I'm not sure that the guy in the photo could have even made that call.

Colnago Mixte

I gotta ask, did anyone turn left and go to La Grange?

Somewhere I heard some guy with a big beard say "They got a lotta nice girls there. Just let me know . . . if you wanna go . . ."

woodcraft

Some of these roads ahead are not very empty....

curbtender

Empty as it gets, unopened section of the bay trail...

Nachoman

Yeah my last post was an empty road, in front of the guy, in front of me.

indyfabz

Maybe make an eye appointment. You can clearly see riders in the distance who have turned left. Or at least I can. And notice the blue sign on the right.

indyfabz

MT 83 on the way to Seeley Lake.

indyfabz

MT 2 heading towards Whitehall. There was a mighty wind a blowin'.

diphthong

looks like maybe noon-1:15pm climbing that stretch? how hot was it? humidity? been wanting to get back out there but it's been ridiculously
melty lately during semi-reasonable hours and i'm not the earliest riser. not my fave climb but still epic and worthy. esp when there's a klondike bar
at the mt. laguna store. great pic. the detail of the road surface, the width of the road, the lack of traffic, surrounding vista, shrubbery and familiarity all
conspired to id it as kitchen creek.

Nachoman

This was before the heatwave, so not too bad. And substitute beer for klondike bar, and I agree with you. Although keep in mind that my ride essentially ends at the market, as it's almost all down hill from there back to the car parked in Pine Valley.

f4rrest

Maui on the 340, heading to Kahakuloa

diphthong

oh don't encourage me. usually have enuff patience/"discipline" to hold off until hitting alpine brewing co on the drive back. just not on mondays...

Seattle Forrest

Love it! There's this combination of openness to the land, and trees, that doesn't really make sense together, but that Montana does well.