canyoneagle

Looks alot like my situation. I'm at the top of a 25% grade. A short one, thankfully, but it is a bit of a stinger at the end of a ride.

I typically drive a short distance to a MUP trailhead (mainly due to the fact that my street ends on a 45mph turnpike that can be a bit dodgy certain times of the day) and start my rides there.
The first few miles are MUP into a subdivision, but this particular subdivision is far from boring, and is very scenic - mature trees and steep hills. From there I can venture into town and ride the many roads there.

Otherwise, I prefer to find quiet rural roads for my rides.

Doctor Morbius

Uhm, no. I have zero fashion sense.

bikecrate

You'd think since I live in FL there would only be subdivisions. I live in the urban core and I would have to ride a while just to find a subdivision as described by the OP. However, there is one on a particular route that I cut through because it is safer. The other problem is most of the suburbs here are gated communities, which mean they don't connect to anything else.

burnthesheep

I live in Raleigh near the residential only area of N Hills. Nothing big to speak of, but plenty of 3 minute hills at about 300 watts. When I was only around 200 watts, they were 4 to 5 minute hills.

I can link together other neighborhoods in town and never hit a high traffic area. I'll take the greenway for a mile to connect to another neighborhood to go grab a hill I like.

Start out with a lap of N HIlls, cross Glenwood and then go grab some stuff in the neighborhoods between Glenwood and Wade. Take the greenway to Oak Park/Glen Laurel area and lap around a bit.

I will say, these are NOT your new age crap cookie cutter 1/16th acre lot subdivisions. These are older parts of town with 1/2 to 1 acre lots and lower population density. Those cookie cutter jammed together subdivisions can be a nightmare for a bike rider.

FWIW, stoppage time on an out-of-town group ride on country roads is usually about 3 minutes per hour waiting for people to regroup or whatever. In-town, I average about 4 to 5 minutes per hour stoppage time.

I don't see many cars. If so, they're going slower. Streets in some of those parts of town are really wide.

I'm usually alone though, nobody wants to go do hills.

scott967

My subdivision consists of a bunch of looping collector streets with cul-de-sacs or short loops branching off laterally. There's no (or few) driveways on the collectors and for the most part they are stop sign free, though there are lights where the collectors cross one another. I have a couple of 20 mile routes and I do at least one a week. It includes some loops that I use for intervals and also a hill with a couple different approaches that I use for hill repeats. The only problem is there's a couple schools and it is a bit of a mess when school lets out.

scott s.
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billnuke1