f4rrest

Lactose is not the only problem.

Something else in milk increases pain in my old injuries, general phlegm, and respiratory irritation.

bleui

why do I want to search for a specific brand or need to eat a supplement just drink a glass of milk?

joejack951

I understand that those with allergies may want to seek out an alternative to cow's milk. And I'll be the first to admit that it is pretty weird that so many Americans, myself included, enjoy cow's milk so much. But I find it even weirder that people who merely find cow's milk 'gross' go out of their way to find something that's not cow's milk but is supposed to look/taste like it. I have nothing against plant protein (I consume plenty of it) but why make it 'milk' if you don't like milk?

DrIsotope

You don't. Buy milk, drink milk. But if it didn't come from a mammal, it's not milk, it's juice. Calling almond juice "milk" is disingenuous marketing designed to appeal to consumers through a sense of familiarity. Because no one is denying that "Fresh Nut Juice" would be a tough sell. Whether made from peas, cashews, almonds or hemp, it's juice.

indyfabz

Made my morning on this windy, wet, gloomy day.

Scarbo

Well, not in certain quarters . . . .

rpenmanparker 

Why do you want to drink an imitation product instead. Every major grocery chain carries both Lactaid brand milk and their own store brand of zero lactose milk in every common level of fat content from full fat to skim. And the pills are ubiquitous. Drink what you want. I am just asking why you maintain that nut milks were a wonderful solution to a problem that had been solved decades ago.

seedsbelize 

I hate milk. Have since I was a kid. What could be wrong with me?

rpenmanparker 

How do you feel about peas?

Scarbo

You were breastfed by your father?

Sorry. Old Rodney Dangerfield joke. Couldn't resist!

Milk (mammalian--not from peas), yum!

himespau 

For a summer, I worked in the chemical quality assurance lab of a baby formula factory. Part of my job every 30 minutes was to reconstitute the latest batch of powdered formula and perform flavor and aroma tests on it. Think wine tasting with all the swishing and gargling whatnot only with baby formula (and we had to swallow - no spitting into a fancy spittoon). As part of our training, we had to taste good and bad versions of all the products as well as their individual components. When protein levels tested low, we had to add back in casein, which is the major protein in milk. During our flavor and aroma training, we were taught that good casein had a taste that could be described as "barn-y" because it was supposed to taste like a clean dairy barn smells (I thought it tasted like the smell of a band aid, but what do I know). Casein that has gone bad has a flavor that has been described as "dirty barn-y" and I'll leave that flavor to your imagination/memory. Oddly, the best tasting thing we tasted in our training was coconut oil that had gone bad because spoiled coconut oil tastes like bacon fat.

himespau 

me too.

datlas 

So let me get this straight.

Chocolate pea milk is the FUTURE of recovery drinks.

Is that right??

Scarbo

Slammed stems, 1x drivetrains, and chocolate pea milk. It's a Brave New World out there!

BKE

They do, I always have a couple in the cooler on weekend ride days. I get it in a 10 pack of small 6.5oz. cartons, price is crazy cheap.


Nutritional facts aren't the exact same as chocolate milk but close, and depending on what you want they might be better.


Best part is that it tastes just a yummy as it did when I was a kid.

rpenmanparker 

I can't tell you how happy I am you shared this with us. I really can't.

Doug28450

I'm disappointed that you left off ziploc bags.

Scarbo

Morbier. The French cheese. Talk about barn-y tasting. Burnt barn at that.

Masque

Unsurprising that here in a forum where "Someone rides something different than me? Dear God, it must be crap. I'll tell them it's crap. I'm SURE it's crap because what I like must be the best" is the normal thread progression we have now come to "Geez, what's wrong with what *I* like? Why aren't you normal? Why are you into that other crap?"

Go spend a day in a dairy. Go actually spend time with the cows involved in the milk factories.

If that doesn't get you off milk, learn what's actually in it.

And if you still like it, feel free to back off those who for compassion or self-care reasons still don't. It's okay for other people to be different, even if they sometimes get lactose and casein confused when the point is clear either way.

Chocolate pea "milk" IS weird. But it's not bad. Pretty tasty! And it's far less weird than squeezing a mammal for its juice, and it's better for you (Yes, it actually is, look at your blood levels of oxide and compare them with those who don't eat animal protein — you're not DOOMED, you're just not consuming the most healthy options), and it still has refined sugar which is another whole terrible idea.

datlas 

Chapeau!

redlude97

if i was lactose intolerant I would be using whey protein isolate which is generally lactose free, some are available at the grocery still premixed in bottles.

Scarbo

How could I have? You're right. I use them all the time to put my iPhone in!

Scarbo

But, but, but . . . what about all of those poor peas that are ripped, so insensitively, so excrutiatingly, from their little green pods in corporate factory farms all over the country, only to be practically smashed together--with complete strangers, no less--into little packets that are later frozen, hmmm? Why, you can even hear them screaming as they are torn from the arms of their family members!

Pea lives matter.

rpenmanparker 

Right, because even though you really like milk, you just aren't going to accept a version treated with the same natural enzyme that should be in your stomach. A version that causes no problems whatsoever to almost all lactose intolerant people. You would rather consume something called (blech) whey protein isolate. I got it.

Please don't be offended. This thread keeps getting better and better.

rpenmanparker 

This is so stupid. We are talking exclusively about people who like milk. Who want to drink milk. But who, upon becoming lactose intolerant, refuse to avail themselves of the perfect solution to their problem, milk that contains no lactose. Why is everybody being so absurdly intransigent with regard to rejecting something that is exactly what they want and need?