Clubman era replica compatible frames?
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I live in Cambodia and have to improvise, even so it took a bit to get right.
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From the "rains when it pours" department:
Had a frustrating week trying to conclude deals on CL for a clubman like project bike (CL is weird). Finally found a roadster on FB marketplace and refreshingly completed the sale this morning with little fan fair. Even if the clubman idea doesn't work out it has great patina. Oddly, it came with a Bendix 2speed coaster that someone retrofitted along the way. I'm ok with that as the mix match now gives me more license to be creative with it.
The serial number and a weathered City of Vancouver registration decal date it pretty close to 1948
Later today one of the CL sellers finally got back to me and we met up for a second buy. This one is a little more interesting...
No idea what it is yet but it has a 3 speed early derailer with a flip flop fixed gear on the other side.
The serial is confusing as it seems to be from convention 2 1951 but the rest of the bike seems older. The seller seemed to think it was 43 but ?
The only problem is those forks! I suppose I can straighten them with a hammer...
I'm good for project bikes now
Had a frustrating week trying to conclude deals on CL for a clubman like project bike (CL is weird). Finally found a roadster on FB marketplace and refreshingly completed the sale this morning with little fan fair. Even if the clubman idea doesn't work out it has great patina. Oddly, it came with a Bendix 2speed coaster that someone retrofitted along the way. I'm ok with that as the mix match now gives me more license to be creative with it.
The serial number and a weathered City of Vancouver registration decal date it pretty close to 1948
Later today one of the CL sellers finally got back to me and we met up for a second buy. This one is a little more interesting...
No idea what it is yet but it has a 3 speed early derailer with a flip flop fixed gear on the other side.
The serial is confusing as it seems to be from convention 2 1951 but the rest of the bike seems older. The seller seemed to think it was 43 but ?
The only problem is those forks! I suppose I can straighten them with a hammer...
I'm good for project bikes now
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Two old frames in one day - I'm envious. After I stripped the paint from my Supercycle project, I found out first hand about English labour unrest in the 1970's and shoddy quality control - bottom bracket pressing is split in 2 places and 30% of the fork boss for the lower bearing cup is missing. My issues can be fixed, but I'll be on the lookout for some 1950's or earlier frames after seeing the photos of the bikes you picked up. Hope to see more photos as your build progresses.
The only problem I see on the orange bike atm is a busted off pump peg, along with rotted tires. Even the derailer works well.
Both bikes will have their own build threads I'm sure. Gotta finish my Gitane first.
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Just make sure to measure the steerer on your old one, so you can get one that is close in length. It's pretty hard to find anyone these days who still has the tooling to rethread a Raleigh fork that has been cut shorter.
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I'm just kidding about the hammer
I don't know about the fork. The bend is very gentle and continuous and I'm wondering if it was intentional as a way of taking up road vibration. I've heard of that before. The rims are original and show no signs of impact (dents, truing) so ?
It appears the derailer, stem and bars are all add on's from the original but not at that much later of a date as they all have similar patina.
I don't know about the fork. The bend is very gentle and continuous and I'm wondering if it was intentional as a way of taking up road vibration. I've heard of that before. The rims are original and show no signs of impact (dents, truing) so ?
It appears the derailer, stem and bars are all add on's from the original but not at that much later of a date as they all have similar patina.
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I've never heard that one before, but I've heard several times on this forum that these old bikes are made from such soft steel that re-strightening a fork like that is actually doable, with the main point of caution being whether or not the join between the steerer tube and the fork crown is compromised. I have no firsthand experience in this matter, though.
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I've never heard that one before, but I've heard several times on this forum that these old bikes are made from such soft steel that re-strightening a fork like that is actually doable, with the main point of caution being whether or not the join between the steerer tube and the fork crown is compromised. I have no firsthand experience in this matter, though.
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[QUOTE=Happy Feet;21132694]From the "rains when it pours" department:
The only problem is those forks! I suppose I can straighten them with a hammer...
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It's a *very* early Pinarello, "proof of concept".
They shelved the fork design for several decades, because the clientele found them butt-ugly.
There was a brief patent skirmish with Hetchins, but after Pinarello halted production, the scuffle faded away.
j/k
The only problem is those forks! I suppose I can straighten them with a hammer...
[3/QUOTE]
It's a *very* early Pinarello, "proof of concept".
They shelved the fork design for several decades, because the clientele found them butt-ugly.
There was a brief patent skirmish with Hetchins, but after Pinarello halted production, the scuffle faded away.
j/k
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