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Old 07-13-15 | 07:16 AM
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okay man. lol whats with the hate? i just dont want to waste money on something im not sure of. chill dude.

I'm "chill". There's no "hate" directed at you, personally. But seriously, yer overthinking something you have zero experience with, ya know? Everyone wants things "easy" right off the rip. It couldn't be any easier. Get a bike, learn how to set up different gearing, figure out what's comfortable, ride it. Get it?
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Old 07-13-15 | 07:31 AM
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I'm "chill". There's no "hate" directed at you, personally. But seriously, yer overthinking something you have zero experience with, ya know? Everyone wants things "easy" right off the rip. It couldn't be any easier. Get a bike, learn how to set up different gearing, figure out what's comfortable, ride it. Get it?
Agreed. Buy something and ride it. There is no other way! Then, eventually your "tastes" will become clear.
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Old 07-13-15 | 07:48 AM
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I'm "chill". There's no "hate" directed at you, personally. But seriously, yer overthinking something you have zero experience with, ya know? Everyone wants things "easy" right off the rip. It couldn't be any easier. Get a bike, learn how to set up different gearing, figure out what's comfortable, ride it. Get it?
yeah youre probably right. i wouldnt know it if i havent ride it. okay ill buy and find my comfortable side in it.
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Old 07-13-15 | 07:59 AM
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yeah you're probably right. i wouldn't know it if i haven't ride it. okay ill buy and find my comfortable side in it.
What's "heavy" to some guys, isn't heavy to others, ya know? I mean, if hundreds of overweight hipster chicks can pedal around on ****ty, 50lb, junk store 10 speeds while wearing ugly 80's mom jeans, then a 25lb bike used for "exercise" or tooling around town probably won't give you any trouble at all.

Just don't buy a total pos because it's "cheap". It'll make you hate bikes.
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Old 07-13-15 | 02:30 PM
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Old 07-13-15 | 02:40 PM
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My Steamroller weights 23lbs.
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Seriously, How did you get a fixed Steamroller to weigh that much? Isn't that about a 5 or 6lb frame and fork?

None of my steel road bikes are over 20lbs.

I was figuring I could build up a Steamroller with at around 17 or 18 lbs with brakes.
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Old 07-13-15 | 02:44 PM
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Seriously, How did you get a fixed Steamroller to weigh that much? Isn't that about a 5 or 6lb frame and fork?

None of my steel road bikes are over 20lbs.
Estimate with Me+bike-Me on a bathroom scale. 56cm frame, singlespeed, not fixed, with front and rear brakes. I've never weighed it by itself, but it's not what I would call a light bike. I love it though.
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Old 07-13-15 | 05:10 PM
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Seriously, How did you get a fixed Steamroller to weigh that much? Isn't that about a 5 or 6lb frame and fork?

None of my steel road bikes are over 20lbs.

I was figuring I could build up a Steamroller with at around 17 or 18 lbs with brakes.
wow nice steel bike if you weighted yours below 20.
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Old 07-13-15 | 05:22 PM
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Two thoughts on bike weights. Both from having just ridden the weekend Cycle Oregon ride where my 20 pound fix gear was roughly a mid-weight ride relative to other bikes. I watched a woman getting her much lighter bike onto her roof rack after the ride and thought that here is a place where light bikes makes a lot of sense. For a smaller woman who is tired, a 20+ pound bike could be VERY taxing to get onto a roof rack and (especially if she has ever lost it while attempting) might never do such a ride again because of it.

Second thought (largely in fun). Light bikes are a requirement for weight weenies. Hard men don't need them. I'd rather be a hard man. (I actually don't get to "choose" to be a hard man. That's for others have to judge. But weight weenie is a choice and a choice I won't make.)

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Old 07-13-15 | 10:57 PM
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I was figuring I could build up a Steamroller with at around 17 or 18 lbs with brakes.
Prob not. My aluminum frame with carbon bars,brakeless,with Wabi wheels is 17.5lbs.
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Old 07-14-15 | 07:21 AM
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and more importantly your frame? because the frame is like the body and gets all the weight from the bike is yours chromoly or hi-ten? if talking about other gears such as wheel and bars i can change that easily but the body? thank you for your reply man!
Sorry for this long-overdue response! My frame is from an old (1960s?) Raleigh. It has no labels indicating the type of steel. I'm pretty sure it's straight tubing, not double-butted. I'm sure there are lighter steel frames, but I dropped lots of weight by removing 10-speed components and substituting alloy parts everywhere except the crank set. With just one gear I have to stand to get up hills, which is making me a stronger rider, so weight is less important.

[Edit: Vielleicht wohnen Sie in Deutschland oder Oesterreich? Wenn ich Recht habe, dann gruesse ich Sie. Manchmal sind die americanische fixed gear Leute ein Bisschen unhoeflich. Das heiss "attitude." Es bedeutet nichts gegen Sie. (Hoffentlich ist mein Deutsch nicht zu schrecklich.)]

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Old 07-14-15 | 08:22 AM
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Who you calling unhoeflich?
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Old 07-14-15 | 10:56 AM
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Who you calling unhoeflich?
Present company always excepted! (Hey, you may not care to admit it, but I'm actually one of youse guys.)
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Old 07-14-15 | 12:07 PM
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Until I get my 18.4 lbs Wabi Classic in august, I'm riding a bike almost exactly like this one:



I haven't weighed it, but it's so damn heavy I can barely lift it (I'm 5'11" and I am of medium build). They might as well have filled the tubes with lead at the factory. I think I can objectively say that this bike is "too heavy," at least to do any spirited riding or for carrying up several flights of stairs. What's objectively "light enough," I have no idea. My point is that there aren't a lot of absolutes when talking about weight. My Wabi will be the first (reasonably) light-weight steel bike I have ever owned and I can't wait to ride it.
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Old 07-14-15 | 02:29 PM
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Until I get my 18.4 lbs Wabi Classic in august, I'm riding a bike almost exactly like this one:



I haven't weighed it, but it's so damn heavy I can barely lift it (I'm 5'11" and I am of medium build). They might as well have filled the tubes with lead at the factory. I think I can objectively say that this bike is "too heavy," at least to do any spirited riding or for carrying up several flights of stairs. What's objectively "light enough," I have no idea. My point is that there aren't a lot of absolutes when talking about weight. My Wabi will be the first (reasonably) light-weight steel bike I have ever owned and I can't wait to ride it.

After riding that grocery getter, the Wabi will feel reeeeaaaallllyyyyy un-heavy.
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Old 07-14-15 | 04:35 PM
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Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to it. I've ridden a few aluminum road bikes and while they were light, the ride was harsh. That's the thing about old heavy steel bikes; their heft requires you to put in a lot of pedaling effort but once you get going it's like riding a train.
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Old 07-14-15 | 06:05 PM
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Prob not. My aluminum frame with carbon bars,brakeless,with Wabi wheels is 17.5lbs.
OK, so I double checked just to make sure I'm not deluding myself.

Spectrum track bike is 60cm steel frame and steel fork and weighs in at 16.4 lbs.
I don't understand why a Steam roller shouldn't be this unless they're building it out of fence pipe.
Maybe a few lbs for brakes and cables and the diff between tubulars and clinchers.

Waterford, 59cm steel with CF fork and S&S couplers, Ultegra 11 group, no weight weenie stuff is 19.8 lbs

Spectrum road 59cm steel frame and steel fork with DA 10 is 20.8 lbs so that one is a bit over 20 lbs.

And for comparison's sake Cervelo P2C CF frame and forks with DA 10 speed is 19.0 lbs.
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I can't feel a difference between my 17lb build and my cheap 28lb build. the light one is a bit smoother due to the higher end parts, but i've yet to notice a real difference when riding.
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Sorry for this long-overdue response! My frame is from an old (1960s?) Raleigh. It has no labels indicating the type of steel. I'm pretty sure it's straight tubing, not double-butted. I'm sure there are lighter steel frames, but I dropped lots of weight by removing 10-speed components and substituting alloy parts everywhere except the crank set. With just one gear I have to stand to get up hills, which is making me a stronger rider, so weight is less important.

[Edit: Vielleicht wohnen Sie in Deutschland oder Oesterreich? Wenn ich Recht habe, dann gruesse ich Sie. Manchmal sind die americanische fixed gear Leute ein Bisschen unhoeflich. Das heiss "attitude." Es bedeutet nichts gegen Sie. (Hoffentlich ist mein Deutsch nicht zu schrecklich.)]
yeah thanks maybe ill just change parts from time to time.
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I can't feel a difference between my 17lb build and my cheap 28lb build. the light one is a bit smoother due to the higher end parts, but i've yet to notice a real difference when riding.
i somewhat knew it in terms of weight just gotta ride and feel it.
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