or u use rot/mold resistant liner material. that bagaboo looks cool, but if you look at the edges you can see the flap leaves the edges at the lip uncovered/open when closed

yeah, some do, i emailled several and some waits are 5-6 weeks for a custom bag. Most in fact. anyone else find that? long waits suck, especially if the make you pay or deposit up front for the bag

yeah, my timbuk2 can no longer be considered waterproof, thanks to gaping holes that cut through to the liner. after 4 years, i think it needs to be decommissioned. and there's no way i'd buy another timbuk2. they used to make messenger bags. now they make shi+e...

i'm leaning toward getting a reload courier with some custom stitching done on it. i'm a little worried that it will be uncarriably big for my 5'5" self, tho. The bag i carry now is 19" x 14".

Wow how childish,,,,I thought you were making a joke,,,I was throwing a little sourcasm out there.Sorry if I hurt your feelings..But you can't tell me to ****off, because its my thread LOL....Moral is don't be a smart@ss if you can't take it ----JJ

aint that the beginning of the straps?

i didn't know if any of you were in the market for a messenger bag. but if you're looking to "start your own courier service", this guy has the bag for you!
http://boston.craigslist.org/bik/70388552.html

i have a freitag bag at the moment and it is open on the corners slightly, but its usually wrapped tight on my back and water can't really enter the corners. plus when you're going really fast the water doesn't have a chance to fall into the bag...

Got the Crumpler today,,won't say I was disappointed but was suprised to see it was made in Vietnam,,,,just like the Northface backpack its replacing...I guess oldtimers like me just assume things are made where they come from.---JJ

thats capitalism for ya

You were wondering when the weenie was gonna pop up?

Now that's humor a third grader can appreciate. Thank you very much.

Wheeeee!

Childish?

You thought wrong *****. And you weren't throwing sarcasm, you were taking a shot. Bone up, eh?

Moral is: don't be a dick.. unless you are one..

:D

WHY DON'T YOU GIRLS TAKE YOUR LITTLE ***** FIGHT SOME WHERE ELSE

i'm about 5'6" and i just got the civilian. it's big, i can't imagine carrying the courier. it's only a little bigger, but it would be too big for my use. i was carrying 2 sweatshirts, 1 pair of sneakers, socks, food, ipod, phone, tools, and a pump and it was comfortable on my back.

the bag is really nice, feels really solid.

What makes the Timbuk2 bags of today any different from the ones of yore?

m.

anybody ever use a jandd gabriel bag? I saw one of those a couple weeks ago and it looked huge. as for timbuk2s-my tb2's held up fine for 4 years of daily rain, sleet, snow and heat. some people have had other experiences though. then again, some people don't take care of their stuff.

Not much, as far as I know. That plastic buckle thingy's sucked since the very beginning.

Not the Gabriel but I have been using the Iniki for a while now. I actually just got another one today as I wanted a different color, the new strap pad, and the reflective stripe on the flap that also holds a blinkie; mine was an old one that did not have the stripe. Other than that the bags are exactly the same and they are great. Jandd makes really good stuff. I also have a Manhanttan Portage bag that I like but it does not hold a candle to my Jandd. Maybe if I was going to ride around for 8 + hours a day I might spend crazy money on a bag but for what I need this bag is more than ample. My typical load includes, some sneakers, jeans, shirt, notebook, textbook, nalgene bottle, lunch, and assorted other crap (pens, deodarant, tools etc.). I have also managed a 30 pack in that bag with room left over. If you are just looking to use the bag for personal use than I say go for it. I would even say its worthy of being a work bag but I have never worked as a messenger so I would not know.

I had a reload "Civilian" and at 5'8 I found it a little too large, but if you need to carry a good deal it would be fine. I would try their "small civilian"....

they are made of a slicker material that bothers some people. it tends to make the bag slide around on one's back. the older ones were made of a more denim feeling material.
i actually prefer the plastic buckle to those rusty metal clasps on other bags that eat into the strap and make it fray. the buckles are plenty strong enough (believe me, i've carried literally tons in mine over the last twelve years) and they are easier to cinch than, say, a manhattan portage clasp.
having said all that, i have been really into the crumpler bag i won at MT6. so much lighter than any of my other bags. the crumpler isn't waterproof, but then "waterproof" bags aren't waterproof when it comes to messengering. you reach in so often that breathability is more important than a plastic lining that will keep in the wet. wise men rely upon a supply of plastic bags in their messenger bags for waterproofing.

t/y now thats what I'm talkin about :)
I didn't mean to pizz that other dude off,, I thought we were all just havin some fun

Goretex bag, anyone?

i have a medium sized timbuk2 from about 7 years ago that has a sweet black liner that is thick as hell and never gave me a problem, Then i bought an super big one on discount about 4 years ago and have used it everyday, and finally the liner is wearing through at the corners. Both decent quality, with cordura and heavy vinyl liners, but with all regards, the new ones look like crap and I would now go with a reload or bailey for both aestetics and qaulity of construction. Also note. the 7 year old one has "lifetime warrantee" and the company phone# stitched into the timbuk2 label on the front pocket and the 4 year old one doesn't.

I have a crumpler wonder weenie and I like it ok. The material is a little scratchy feeling, and it's that same texture that seems to pick up a LOT of lint. But, that's not really effecting the perfomance any. :) It does what I need it to.. I'm not a courier so I dont carry packages in it or anything, just use it to commute as my old backpack hurt my shoulders when I rode with it.

I'm seriously thinking about making my own.. although I've never sewed a thing in my life... some friends of mine are practically seamstresses, except they're men. :) Gonna see if they can help me. Just gotta score some cordura. :)

:) about once a month we get an email from someone asking us if we could use goretex in their bag. I guess so they can say they got the latest thing? but since the breathability thing only works with a heat source (you) to force the moisture through the one-way permeable goop that is goretex laminate it just don't work. in cold you have too much between you and the inner bag to create water vapour inside the bag and in heat the sun/you/ambient temp don't allow the water vapour to pass between layers outward and would wick too slowly through cordura or ballistic anyway. Plus it's a high tech laminate for thin high tech fabrics, which would make one loosey goose bag.

a few months ago a guy asked me if we could use Nomex on his bag...I said okay..you a fireman? he sez no, I sez oh..you know that stuff is $50+ a yard right, cost way extra to make a flame******ent bag for you, whatcha doin with it? he sez..nuthin, never got another email from him :D

we'd a made it for him too if he'd really wanted it :D

how about a chainmail bag? I know a guy.. spensive though

anyone have any feedback for me about reload vs. UTW bags? for me the real deciding factor is which has the cushiest strap padding, since i usually ride in tank tops in summer and webbed straps hurt.

I got another one: Ortlieb. Those things look quite industrial. I see a lot of messengers around Manhattan with those on. Anyone use their backpacks? I need a backpack, the one-shoulder strap bags really hurt.