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Pulled the Plug and Bought an Older Motobecane Track

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Old 09-29-15 | 06:51 AM
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Pulled the Plug and Bought an Older Motobecane Track

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Thanks for all your help!

BikeIsland had a slightly scuffed yellow in my size so I bought it. Its an older model and details are below. It appears to be the exact same bike as listed here: https://www.motobecane.com/track/trk.html which should weight just under 22 pounds stock.



Frame: Motobecane Custom Butted and Tapered 4130 Cromoly with Track Dropout, water bottle mount, 120mm rear spacing
Fork: Motobecane Custom Drawn and Tapered Steel, Unicrown Road, 1.125 threadless
Headset: Ritchey, Contact Sealed, Ball Bearing, 1.125"
Crankset: Aluminum Alloy, 46T 1/2x1/8, Black anodized finish, 130BCD (49/52/54cm=165mm, 56/58/61cm=170mm)
Bottom Bracket: CH52, Sealed Cartridge 103mm, square taper
Pedals: FREE: Classic Road w/clips and straps with 9/16 Boron steel axle (Silver Alloy or Black resin pedal body, No Choice)
Front Derailleur: N/A
Rear Derailleur: N/A
Shifters: N/A
Cassette/Freewheel 15T Fixed Gear (1/2 x1/8) and LockRing or Flip/Reverse the wheel to add your own Freewheel (freewheel not included)
Chain: KMC Z410 1/2x1/8
Hubs: Formula, 32H High-flange, TrackSpec Black Anodized Aluminum, FLIPFLOP rear, shielded ball bearings. M9/M10 Solid axles, 120mm rear hub spacing
Spokes: Brass Nipples, 14G Stainless
Rims: Weinmann ZAC1800, 32H, Aero Track DoubleWall, black anodized
Tires: Kenda K191 700x23c or 25c (no choice), Presta valve tubes
Brakes: FREE Rear brake - Road Aluminum Caliper, Black finish
Brake Levers: FREE Rear brake lever - Classic Road Aluminum (rear only), Black finish
Handlebar: Butted 6061 Aluminum Anatomical Bend, 26.0 (49/52/54=410mm, 56/58/61=430mm)
Stem: Forged/Welded Aluminum, 26.0, Removable Clamp, Black Finish, 1.125" (49/52cm = 100mm, 54/56cm=110mm, 58/61cm=120mm)
Tape/Grip: Deluxe Cork, Black
Saddle: SL Turbo Style Racing with comfort groove, Cromoly Rail
Seat Post: SL Micro Adjust Aluminum 250mm X 27.2mm
Seat Clamp: Motobecane SL Machined Aluminum
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Old 09-29-15 | 10:21 AM
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46:15 that's what 80 gear inches? I would definitely swap out that 15t cog for 17t

Congrats on the new bike. Hope it provides you with many miles of fixed fun
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Old 09-29-15 | 05:36 PM
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46:15 that's what 80 gear inches? I would definitely swap out that 15t cog for 17t

Congrats on the new bike. Hope it provides you with many miles of fixed fun
So it seems that the newer BD Windsors, Moto Tracks are a step down from this older version.

This older version seems to be lighter and comes with at least some quality components (i.e. the Ritchey headset) and even some non-generic stuff (i.e. the Weinnman rims)
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Old 09-29-15 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Inpd
This older version seems to be lighter
Fun fact: drinking a bottle of water makes you gain 1.5 lbs

not trying to kill your buzz or anything...
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Old 09-29-15 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jlafitte
Fun fact: drinking a bottle of water makes you gain 1.5 lbs

not trying to kill your buzz or anything...
Wow you shouldn't limit your wisdom and wit to only the fixed gear forum of this website. You should go on the road with such amazing insights ...

I was just pointing out that BD is dropping the standards on their bikes. If you compare the specs I listed with the ones of the current Moto Track you'll see they are using cheaper tires (K191 - 110 PSI vs K176 90 PSI), cheaper headset (Ritchie $40 vs FSA $20) and of course a heavier frame is typically cheaper.
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Old 09-29-15 | 08:54 PM
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"Pulling the plug" means to give up on something... did you mean that you "pulled the trigger"?
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Old 09-29-15 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Inpd
I was just pointing out that BD is dropping the standards on their bikes. If you compare the specs I listed with the ones of the current Moto Track you'll see they are using cheaper tires (K191 - 110 PSI vs K176 90 PSI), cheaper headset (Ritchie $40 vs FSA $20) and of course a heavier frame is typically cheaper.
That Ritchie is not a $40 headset, more like $10. Also, a lot of those specs are wrong. Take it from someone who owns three BD bikes. That doesn't mean they are terrible bikes, just pretty average and nothing special. When you get the bike, put it together propoerly, then get on it and ride, and stop obssessing about specs and weight.
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"Pulling the plug" means to give up on something... did you mean that you "pulled the trigger"?
How about "jump the shark" ?
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Old 09-29-15 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
That Ritchie is not a $40 headset, more like $10. Also, a lot of those specs are wrong. Take it from someone who owns three BD bikes. That doesn't mean they are terrible bikes, just pretty average and nothing special. When you get the bike, put it together propoerly, then get on it and ride, and stop obssessing about specs and weight.
A neighborhood has the bike, it has this headset https://www.amazon.com/Ritchey-Zero-P...p_89%3ARitchey

Specs are important and BD doesn't list them incorrectly (that would be false advertising and they'd be in big trouble).

I own another BD bike and I agree that they are average, but I think they are excellent value for money
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A neighborhood has the bike, it has this headset Amazon.com: Ritchey Zero Pro Drop-In Integrated Headset 1 1/8"/ 41.8mm Campy Threadless Black

Specs are important and BD doesn't list them incorrectly (that would be false advertising and they'd be in big trouble).

I own another BD bike and I agree that they are average, but I think they are excellent value for money
Lol about BD specs being always correct or them getting in trouble about them. If you want to believe that, then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that I can sell you.
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Old 09-29-15 | 09:58 PM
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Lol about BD specs being always correct or them getting in trouble about them. If you want to believe that, then I've got a bridge in Brooklyn that I can sell you.
LOL you've never heard of the FTC (Fair Trade Commission). See https://www.ftc.gov/public-statement...ment-deception you can't perform deceptive advertising. Not only does the seller have to take the product back at their cost and refund your money there is a substantial fine.

But still agree there is nothing special about their entry level bikes, just good value for money.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
"Pulling the plug" means to give up on something... did you mean that you "pulled the trigger"?
I meant pulling the plug since I'm pulling the plug on searching for a bike since I found one at BikeIsland for $200. :-)
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It's interesting that an entire neighborhood can own a headset. I once shared a lawnmower with a neighbor, but he was out of town occasionally. It made for an exciting weekend.

They're not misrepresenting anything the description of the ritchey headset starts around 10 bucks.
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I meant pulling the plug since I'm pulling the plug on searching for a bike since I found one at BikeIsland for $200. :-)
Heh, just teasing.
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Enjoy your bike, dude. Ride it all over. If you like, give us a report after a while.
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