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Old 12-21-15 | 10:44 AM
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Hi all. I'm usually in the wings of the C&V forum, but thought I'd ask about this in here. I've been a SS mountain biker since the late 90s but never fixed. Until now. I've found a rather lovely 70s/80s fixed gear beast and was looking for some pointers. I think the first thing I'll have to do is put a spare fork on temporarily, as there's no drilling for a brake. Any tips for a novice fixed gear rider (who lives at the top of a hill)...

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Old 12-21-15 | 12:13 PM
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Whew that is a nice bike. Not sure what the gearing is, but given that you live on a hill you might want to run something fairly spinny, perhaps between 65-75 GI, maybe lighter depending on how you think you can handle it. You'll certainly need the brake to start out, whether or not you end up keeping it is up to you, but I think the main thing you'll want to worry about fr now besides a new fork is gearing
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Old 12-21-15 | 12:16 PM
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That's a truly beautiful track bike. Other than a front brake, you need to figure out your optimal gearing. I would recommend getting good foot retention with clipless pedals, which is very important when riding fixed.
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Old 12-21-15 | 01:23 PM
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Any tips for a novice fixed gear rider (who lives at the top of a hill)...
My advice...

Coasting is habitual and so it can't be stressed enough that you cannot coast. Your singular focus when when starting to pedal therefor, is to get your weight off the pedals and onto the seat. Start with your dominant foot, begin to pedal and sit immediately, before the pedal gets to the bottom of the stroke. If your weight is still on the pedal when it comes up it is going to lift your whole body and has the potential to launch you. Don't worry about your non-dominant foot but worry about sitting first, then worry about the other foot.

Buy spare brake pads. Feathering the brakes on the downhill wears out pads faster than on a road bike where you don't use the brakes as much.

@TejanoTracki is 100% correct about clipless pedals.

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Old 12-21-15 | 01:30 PM
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Old 12-21-15 | 04:20 PM
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Old 12-21-15 | 04:26 PM
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get out your road bike and find the lowest gear you can get up the hill to your house in.

Then you can figure out the corresponding front chain ring and cog combo that will give you the equivalent gear inches.
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Old 12-22-15 | 12:16 AM
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There are a few more photos here. andr0id, that's a pretty good plan. Then of course (at least on a singlespeed) add a little to compensate for the lighter weight machine?

Living in France I have a bit of a thing going for French bikes. For this one, I'm selling a 1978 Nikon F3hp with 7 lenses and the hotshoe flash unit.. Can't have everything...
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I have to join the chorus here and say that is a fantastic bike you have there - enjoy it...
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Old 12-23-15 | 12:40 PM
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Hey Milo,

Very nice machine. Glad you came over here to show it. Can't keep it all on C&V ya know.

Where I ride is pancake flat so no hill advice from me. I could only echo what others have said but won't.

You done good.
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Old 01-06-16 | 04:32 AM
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So here she is in all her glory. I tried to take more photos but the frame is such a statement of elegant simplicity, I would have been repeating myself!

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Really nice. Do you have a lockring on the hub? It appears to be missing in the last picture, unless that's an illusion.
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No lockring! What threading would be on a Campag Record hub? Better get ordering...
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All Campy track hubs use an Italian-threaded lockring.

Campy, Phil Wood, Miche and EAI are your options.
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No lockring! What threading would be on a Campag Record hub? Better get ordering...
Probably Italian, which is 33.5mm x 24TPI.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
Probably Italian, which is 33.5mm x 24TPI.
Also referred to as 1.32" x 24 tpi

Any lockring meant to work on a Campag hub will state so even if they don't give the measurements...
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Old 01-06-16 | 11:49 AM
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Miche it is then! Thank you all.
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Old 01-07-16 | 06:50 AM
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Well this is annoying. Nobody on line in France or the UK has any decent 19t Italian threaded cogs. All the EAI stockists I've found are out of stock. Might be a waiting game.
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Well this is annoying. Nobody on line in France or the UK has any decent 19t Italian threaded cogs. All the EAI stockists I've found are out of stock. Might be a waiting game.
Cog threading on Campy pista hub is standard - lockring threading is Italian
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Old 01-07-16 | 08:33 AM
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All the ones I've seen are 1.37 x 24. Thats not what I need from what I can gather?
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All the ones I've seen are 1.37 x 24. Thats not what I need from what I can gather?
Italian hub threading is 1.378" x 24 TPi, which is close enough to English threading to be interchangeable. An English threaded cog will be a tighter fit, and may even remove a bit of hub thread, but is still safe.
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Went through this shopping cogs myself back when I had to have a set of Campy track hubs - is close enough to not matter but if one wants to split hairs...

British standard is 1.370" x 24, ISO is 1.375" x 24, and Italian/Campag is 35mm which is 1.378"

So in other words MiloFrance - all are pretty much interchangeable

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Old 01-13-16 | 11:43 AM
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My box of parts came so I got the beast out to see what I could do. Nothing was the answer as my whip didn't fit (1/8th"?). So I thought about it and having a LH thread with no lock ring must mean 1. he didn't use these wheels on it, or 2. he had a nice Phil on it that he wanted to keep. Either way, It's not going to be on the road for a few days more.
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