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Fixie with vertical drop outs and idler question

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Old 02-24-16, 05:26 PM
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Fixie with vertical drop outs and idler question

I saw a Sole fixie today - awesome. But I don't think I'll ever get a fixie that someone in some factory built to be a fixie. That is just so not me, and it is an affront to my 240 lb tare weight.

So My thought is to put this Bianchi to good use - since the C-Itoh is sold.

Bianchi advantage has vertical rear axle drop outs. So I need idlers.

My first thought is to shy away from idlers.
However I had a question. With an idler in the rear to take up chain slack can I get a quick release for the rear axle.
That would make me overlook the idler cos I like QR's more than I hate Idlers.
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Originally Posted by srinath.the.man
I saw a Sole fixie today - awesome. But I don't think I'll ever get a fixie that someone in some factory built to be a fixie. That is just so not me, and it is an affront to my 240 lb tare weight.

So My thought is to put this Bianchi to good use - since the C-Itoh is sold.

Bianchi advantage has vertical rear axle drop outs. So I need idlers.

My first thought is to shy away from idlers.
However I had a question. With an idler in the rear to take up chain slack can I get a quick release for the rear axle.
That would make me overlook the idler cos I like QR's more than I hate Idlers.
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I have no idea what any of this actually means.
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Can I do QR rear wheel in a fixie if the fixie has an idler for the chain.
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Old 02-24-16, 05:52 PM
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You can't use a chain tensioner on a fixed gear bike at all, quick release rear axle or not.
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If you mean using a spring loaded chain tensioner with a fixed gear cog, then the answer is no, regardless of whether you use a quick release or a nutted/bolted axle.
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Originally Posted by srinath.the.man
it is an affront to my 240 lb tare weight.
Um, ok. You must be special.
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Originally Posted by srinath.the.man
But I don't think I'll ever get a fixie that someone in some factory built to be a fixie.
I think this is the part that confuses me the most.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
I think this is the part that confuses me the most.
The rear facing horizontal dropouts make it way too easy, you know...
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You can't use a chain tensioner on a fixed gear bike at all, quick release rear axle or not.
Chain tensioners on Bianchi fixie is pretty much standard required equipment. The rear axle drop outs are vertical.
You tube it.
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Originally Posted by hairnet
Um, ok. You must be special.
No I must be fat.
Fixies are a thumb in the eye of the factory.
Cool.
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Originally Posted by srinath.the.man
Fixies are a thumb in the eye of the factory.
Again, what does this even mean?

Idlers, or chaintensioners, don't work with fixed gear. You can use them with a freewheel for singlespeed, but not fixed gear.
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Originally Posted by hairnet
Again, what does this even mean?

Idlers, or chaintensioners, don't work with fixed gear. You can use them with a freewheel for singlespeed, but not fixed gear.
I have to make my own fixie . Lets just leave it there.

And sorry my bad. Single speed, not fixie.

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Originally Posted by hairnet
Again, what does this even mean?
It means the OP is providing a vibrant and diverse opinion that is not consistent with the beliefs of the fixed gear community.

Remember, bicycles are just a concrete representation of mechanical engineering. There are no "wrong answers."
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Old 02-24-16, 06:46 PM
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This is the best thread I've seen here in a while.

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i. guess I need to . Go You


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Just wick-strap the dingaling and moop the chain down a few jigs.
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All I can think of when I read this thread.

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Never mind guys I found the answer.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-any-good.html

That has QR. I was looking for that thread earlier too, but couldn't find it.
I also see pics of non idler SS with QR. But if you took the wheel off the chain will drag on the ground.
So I guess that's part of the deal.
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i think you're confused. If you use a tensioner with a fixed cog and skid the tensioner will break off. tensioners are for single speeds, which means you have a freewheel.

*edit: maybe I'm confused, I just regretfully read a few posts from his linked thread and i don't know what this guy is talking about anymore.

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Originally Posted by hardboiled718
i think you're confused. If you use a tensioner with a fixed cog and skid the tensioner will break off. tensioners are for single speeds, which means you have a freewheel.
What i I don't skid?

I have 2 brakes and use them for stopping but I'm sure I apply some 'back pressure' sometimes.

Is a tensioner really totally incompatible with a fixed hub?
Don't want one, just trying to think through the mechanics.
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backpedaling causes the tension of the chain to reverse; instead of being tight on top, the chain will be tight on the bottom. even under seemingly light pressure the reversal of tension will cause the tensioner to move up and the chain on the upper portion between the cog and chain ring will gain more slack, potentially derailing.
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This thread gave me a good laugh. Thanks guys
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