Fixed what....????
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As soon as Donald Trump becomes president, there will be a total and complete ban of Spaniards entering America.
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Don't take it personally. If I told them of my plans to put a Brooks B190 on my fixed gear and cruise down the local sidewalks with my handlebars higher than my saddle, I'd get flack, too.
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The local law enforcement here encourages bikers to use the sidewalks on roads without bike lanes. Their view is that a bike+pedestrian collision results in less serious injuries than a bike+auto collision.
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(or they WANT cyclists to get killed.)
https://bicyclesafe.com
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Riding on the Sidewalk | League of American Bicyclists
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Your local law enforcers are, frankly, morons.
(or they WANT cyclists to get killed.)
https://bicyclesafe.com
(or they WANT cyclists to get killed.)
https://bicyclesafe.com

^This one is a little strange for a couple reasons. First is the fact that the crash occurs in the street, not on the sidewalk. Second, they show the biker riding on the wrong side of the road. Why? If the biker is on the correct side of the road, then all the regular safety precautions and risks of crossing the road would apply. You don't just fly through an intersection when there is car traffic without yielding the right of way, regardless of if you are using the bike lane or a crosswalk.
Riding on the Sidewalk | League of American Bicyclists
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These items don’t just make riding inconvenient; they also can make you invisible to drivers.
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You can go faster and safer on the road.
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I don't think that people will find much support or encouragement anywhere on this forum when it comes to riding on the sidewalk. It may differ in other countries, so take that with a grain of salt. Bicycles do not belong on the sidewalk. We belong on the road, preferably a bike lane if possible.
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I don't think that people will find much support or encouragement anywhere on this forum when it comes to riding on the sidewalk. It may differ in other countries, so take that with a grain of salt. Bicycles do not belong on the sidewalk. We belong on the road, preferably a bike lane if possible.
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If the biker is on the correct side of the road, then all the regular safety precautions and risks of crossing the road would apply. You don't just fly through an intersection when there is car traffic without yielding the right of way, regardless of if you are using the bike lane or a crosswalk.
Riding on the Sidewalk | League of American Bicyclists
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If a bicyclist is invisible to a motorist while on the sidewalk, isn't that moot, as motorists don't belong on the sidewalk? When the bicyclist leaves the sidewalk he/she needs to take all the regular precautions of riding on the road.
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If a bicyclist is invisible to a motorist while on the sidewalk, isn't that moot, as motorists don't belong on the sidewalk? When the bicyclist leaves the sidewalk he/she needs to take all the regular precautions of riding on the road.
Well, no, it's not moot. It's exactly the point. You're a fast moving vehicle in a place where other vehicle operators aren't looking for you - at all - and you regularly (every block or so) have to leave the sidewalk, enter the road, then re-enter the sidewalk. That's precisely why you're more likely to get hit there. Plus, you'll take a LOT a longer to get anywhere because you'll be slowing down every block or so, at least, to cross the street and get back on the sidewalk.
If you're going very slowly you can probably get away with it. If you're going my normal speed (and I ain't fast) - anywhere from 18-28mph(*) on my usual commute route - you'll get dead trying to ride the sidewalk.
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IMO that is plain old dumb and asking for trouble.
When riding on the street I still treat driveways and parking lot entrances with extreme caution. I can't count how many times oncoming cars have made lefts in front of me to enter a shopping center.
This part I don't understand. Not being a smartass or combative. I just don't see it like that. On the rare occasion when I ride on the sidewalk I use the same caution entering the intersection that I would when riding on the street. LOOKING for Joe knucklehead to make a left into me, or the guy who makes a right-on-red in front of me. When I am on the street I slow down when I approach intersection in anticipation of those events. I just assume that ALL motorists are texting ALL the time.
I'll agree that 20mph is way too fast for a sidewalk. You are sharing space with pedestrians so turtle mode is appropriate.
The more important point is that, on the sidewalk, every driveway and every parking lot have to be treated like cross streets.
You're a fast moving vehicle in a place where other vehicle operators aren't looking for you - at all - and you regularly (every block or so) have to leave the sidewalk, enter the road, then re-enter the sidewalk.
If you're going very slowly you can probably get away with it. If you're going my normal speed (and I ain't fast) - anywhere from 18-28mph(*) on my usual commute route - you'll get dead trying to ride the sidewalk.
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I don't think that people will find much support or encouragement anywhere on this forum when it comes to riding on the sidewalk. It may differ in other countries, so take that with a grain of salt. Bicycles do not belong on the sidewalk. We belong on the road, preferably a bike lane if possible.
I really only use the sidewalk on one bridge I cross over. The bridge has only two lanes, they are narrow as hell, and there is no shoulder, NONE. So a car that needs to get past me will literally have to veer onto the wrong side of the road. Or, some timid drivers will just stay behind me and hold traffic up. Since I can't go 35mph I'd end up with a long line of cars behind me.
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This part I don't understand. Not being a smartass or combative. I just don't see it like that. On the rare occasion when I ride on the sidewalk I use the same caution entering the intersection that I would when riding on the street. LOOKING for Joe knucklehead to make a left into me, or the guy who makes a right-on-red in front of me. When I am on the street I slow down when I approach intersection in anticipation of those events. I just assume that ALL motorists are texting ALL the time.
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