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Old 04-12-17, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottybigs View Post
Nitto Technomic stems come in as short as 70mm--how short do you need? Most quill manufacturers go as low as 80mm. I ride with a Soma Sutro stem that's 80mm, works well. Gran Compe has one that's virtually the same--again, 80mm available.

The challenge may be your headtube length, and how tall the stem is above your headset.

If there's a bike co-op in your area, head over there and look for vintage SR stems. I once had one that was 60mm!
He's talking about quill length, not stem length.
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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
There'should no real guideline for single speed chains. It's simply a question of economics. The chain will run and transmit power up to 3% stretch, which is 6 times the guideline for derailleur chains. At that point you'd replace the chain and sprockets together. .
This is good to know, as I was about to check my FG chain and would have replaced it if it had the 1/8" stretch! I'd put a case around it, oiled it maybe 3 times (once per thousand miles roughly) and have never cleaned it. Since I'm accustomed to leaving chains alone until they complain, and it never has. Am I tempting fate with that?
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Why don't you just clean the chain more often? It takes all of 10mins
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Old 04-12-17, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Unkle Rico View Post
Why don't you just clean the chain more often? It takes all of 10mins
Inside the case it never gets dirty, except for metal dust and whatever gets through in the air. TBH I also wanted to see just well it would last with little or no maintenance.
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Originally Posted by Dewey Haftu View Post
Ok, my turn: Who makes a 1" quill stem that has a quill that isn't 42 feet long? I'm short. I ride a 49cm frame. Every quill I can find is longer than my left leg. Help please community.
I had the same issue. I have an origin 8 quill that was 180mm tall and that's the shortest they did. I did what was suggested here and took a hacksaw and cut off 2 cm.
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I tried and tried took find a shorter quill length but came up with nothing.
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Any horror stories from ordering from Velomine?
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Originally Posted by Unkle Rico View Post
Need some help setting up a SS CX Surly Steamroller.. I need to acquire a 42t(ish) front chainring (130bcd)
eBay, all day long.

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and brakes that will accommodate 700c-35 tires.. I would pick stuff up from Scrod but he doesn't really stock these kind of items..
Cantis or V's then... Just about anywhere.
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Originally Posted by Dewey Haftu View Post
Ok, my turn: Who makes a 1" quill stem that has a quill that isn't 42 feet long? I'm short. I ride a 49cm frame. Every quill I can find is longer than my left leg. Help please community.
My bike has a very short headtube, about 10cm not counting headset, and over the years I have gone through quit a few different quills.

I've watched as a couple of guys here posted about successfully taking hacksaws to their stems but for "reasons" I really do not care much for that sort of thing.

In my experience the current reissue Cinelli 1A stem that takes a 26mm handlebar, which by my not-quite-exact measurement is around 130mm long, fits my short headtube about the best of any quill I've tried. Its not quite slammed, but is a "just right" amount of rise above my headset. Full disclosure - I do have about 5mm of spacers between my topnut and upper cup.

Good luck...
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Originally Posted by Unkle Rico View Post
Need some help setting up a SS CX Surly Steamroller.. I need to acquire a 42t(ish) front chainring (130bcd) and brakes that will accommodate 700c-35 tires.. I would pick stuff up from Scrod but he doesn't really stock these kind of items..

Good places to go shopping?
All-City 314 Messenger Chainring for 1/8" Chains in Tree Fort Bikes Chainrings

I have one of these laying around in a 42. Haven't put it on so I can't say if I like it or not.

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eBay, all day long.

Cantis or V's then... Just about anywhere.
Steamroller's don't have canti mounts.
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Originally Posted by Carcosa View Post
All-City 314 Messenger Chainring for 1/8" Chains in Tree Fort Bikes Chainrings

I have one of these laying around in a 42. Haven't put it on so I can't say if I like it or not.



Steamroller's don't have canti mounts.
I somehow read it as being a cross-check.

Dia-Compe 610's (old or new) or Paul Racers then. Ask me how I know.

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Originally Posted by Unkle Rico View Post
and brakes that will accommodate 700c-35 tires..
Ooops. Here is the info you desire.

Wriding: It Was So Obvious

Standard 47-57mm reach Tektro calipers might work too.
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Originally Posted by IAmSam View Post

In my experience the current reissue Cinelli 1A stem that takes a 26mm handlebar, which by my not-quite-exact measurement is around 130mm long, fits my short headtube about the best of any quill I've tried. .
Before taking the hack saw this is what I was going to get but they were out of stock everywhere.
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Originally Posted by Unkle Rico View Post
Any horror stories from ordering from Velomine?
They sent me the wrong size wheel once (27" when I ordered 700c). Promptly corrected the mistake when I got in touch with them about it though. Aside from that, I've shopped with them several times with no problems.
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I see a lot of kids ride around LA on Thrones and Unknowns. I've started riding Fixed again, and am enjoying it, but I've always wondered what riding Aluminum would be like. I see you can build one up relatively cheap, anyone have experience riding the Combat or the Prism? Are they fun cheap thrills, or the Track bike equivalent of those Huffy "Cliff Jumper" "mountain" bikes?
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Originally Posted by the sci guy View Post
I had the same issue. I have an origin 8 quill that was 180mm tall and that's the shortest they did. I did what was suggested here and took a hacksaw and cut off 2 cm.

I tried and tried took find a shorter quill length but came up with nothing.
Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry. This looks like the path to take.
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1/8 chain

Is a master link ok to use for a 1/8 chain? I know a connecting pin would be stronger, but is there any reason not to use a master link like the one below?

https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Z410NP-Co.../dp/B004JKJLU2

Also, I'm looking at buying a chain tool to replace the chain on my 7 speed rear mtb. Got a 10 speed rear on another bike, and fixed gear with 1/8 chain also. Would the Park CT 3.2 work for all 3 bikes?

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Originally Posted by bonsai171 View Post
Is a master link ok to use for a 1/8 chain? I know a connecting pin would be stronger, but is there any reason not to use a master link like the one below?

https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Z410NP-Co.../dp/B004JKJLU2

Also, I'm looking at buying a chain tool to replace the chain on my 7 speed rear mtb. Got a 10 speed rear on another bike, and fixed gear with 1/8 chain also. Would the Park CT 3.2 work for all 3 bikes?

Dave
Master links are fine. I've got tens of thousands of miles on motorcycles (street and dirt) using master link chains, and have never experienced a failure. Just make sure it is installed properly, with the open end of the clip facing the opposite direction of the chains travel.

I have no experience with that tool but according to Park it works with all chains except 11-speed Campagnolo.

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I'm guessing almost everyone here uses a master link, no? Just make sure it matches your chain.

If you're really worried, you can always get an NJS chain with the screw connector.
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This. is... awesome!

Defo going to have to do something like that

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Ooops. Here is the info you desire.

Wriding: It Was So Obvious

Standard 47-57mm reach Tektro calipers might work too.
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I'm guessing almost everyone here uses a master link, no?
Well, No.

Until the narrow Derail road chains for 10/11 cog required a more secured proprietary "connecting link" "master links" were used on coaster brake applications not for FG or Derail chains "back when".
A simple chain tool will suffice to provide safe & positive chain installation for any drive-train flavor from 1890 until the 10 cog derail era.


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Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
Until the narrow Derail road chains for 10/11 cog required a more secured proprietary "connecting link" "master links" were used on coaster brake applications not for FG or Derail chains "back when".
A simple chain tool will suffice to provide safe & positive chain installation for any drive-train flavor from 1890 until the 10 cog derail era.
So I'm guessing almost everyone here uses a master link, no?
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Originally Posted by Unkle Rico View Post
Any horror stories from ordering from Velomine?
I have ordered two wheelsets from Velomine and was more than happy with the experience and the product delivered.

(I actually used one of his wheels to adjust my TS-2.2 yesterday as I knew it to be perfectly dished.)
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So I'm guessing almost everyone here uses a master link, no?
I have master links on my 10 speed road bike and mtb.
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Originally Posted by bonsai171 View Post
I have master links on my 10 speed road bike and mtb.
Of course you do, "connecting links" are required for that tech.

For FG use: Not, a simple chain rivet tool/chain breaker provides a reliable robust connection for the last century or so.
Simple, reliable, efficient and very strong as FG tech has been for good reason on the track and on the road for a very long time.

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Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
Of course you do, "connecting links" are required for that tech.

For FG use: Not, a simple chain rivet tool/chain breaker provides a reliable robust connection for the last century or so.

As Always, suit yourself.

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I was thinking about going to a master link setup, mostly due to having bad experiences with connecting chains in the past (frozen links). Can someone point me to a good resource for how to connect chains?

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