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track hub...long enough axle for 130-135mm frame

Old 05-05-17, 07:08 PM
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track hub...long enough axle for 130-135mm frame

Hi...haven't been here in awhile.

What track hubs are available these days with a stock axle long enough to space out to 130 or 135mm?

I need new wheels for my old BFSSFG group buy Rob Roy, which I have been abusing in the woods a lot lately. The rear dropouts are spaced 132.5mm apart and will accept hubs spaced for road (130mm) or MTB (135mm) frames.


I am building new wheels primarily to have wider rims more suitable for the 40mm tires I am running. Also, the bearings of my current hub are shot and there is a worn out cog frozen on one side. So needless to say, its time for new wheels.

I am currently running a Surly "new" hub, which is actually an old design. Surly's 'ultra new' hubs are available with the correct spacing but the chainline of these wider (130 and 135mm) hubs is too wide for my current drive train.

I'm looking for a track hub with standard track chainline (~42mm) that has a long enough axle to space out to at least 130mm. Thus is a very utilitarian build...not interested in Phil or anything expensive.
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No track hub will come with a long enough axle. Just buy whatever hub you like that has a 10mm axle and replace it with a long axle and spacers from Wheel Manufacturing. They sell 175mm axles, which would be perfect.
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Are you sure about that? I've sets of formula hubs in the past that could easily be spaced out to 130mm.

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Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
Are you sure about that? I've sets of formula hubs in the past that could easily be spaced out to 130mm.
Well if you already knew the answer, why ask? And any TRACK hub is going to be set up for 120mm spacing with no excess axle beyond the end of the nuts.
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all city makes one that's spaced at 130mm. they come stock on the nature boy and can be ordered by any bike shop.
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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
Well if you already knew the answer, why ask? And any TRACK hub is going to be set up for 120mm spacing with no excess axle beyond the end of the nuts.
You are unconvincing. You don't have to like it.
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Originally Posted by johnnytheboy View Post
all city makes one that's spaced at 130mm. they come stock on the nature boy and can be ordered by any bike shop.
Damn...thats exactly what I was looking for thanks.
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Origin 8 has a basic hub that also looks like is has plenty of axle.

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I'm not here to offer any help, but just to say that Rob Roy is tight, always liked that frame.
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Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
Origin 8 has a basic hub that also looks like is has plenty of axle.

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those are rebranded formulas. you could always order a wheelset off of velomine and get them to respace the hubs to 130mm
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i think formula made track hubs in the past that can easily be spaced out to 130mm. 135mm? IDK. or as previously mentioned, just get a longer axle and DIY.

BTW, i may be wrong, but i think that that Nature Boy uses a road crank with the chainring on the inner and a bashguard on the outer. so it's hard to say what the chainline is.

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Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
I'm not here to offer any help, but just to say that Rob Roy is tight, always liked that frame.
Thanks. Its a great frame. I've had it set up just about every way imaginable, but I like it best as a monster cross type thing.
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you could always order a wheelset off of velomine and get them to respace the hubs to 130mm
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Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
You don't have to like it.
WTF are you talking about? I was trying to be helpful. Track hubs are spaced at 120 so I told you about an easy way to solve it and even told you where the parts were available.
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Please go bother someone else.
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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan View Post
BTW, i may be wrong, but i think that that Nature Boy uses a road crank with the chainring on the inner and a bashguard on the outer. so it's hard to say what the chainline is.
All City says the 130mm hub chainline is 45mm
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Cool.

I already have the rims, Kinlin XR22T. Just need to decide on hubs then get spokes.
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Originally Posted by mihlbach View Post
All City says the 130mm hub chainline is 45mm
sorry, but i've searched the All City website page for the Nature Boy (specs too) and can't find anything on the chainline, any idea of where it's at?
thanks.
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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan View Post
sorry, but i've searched the All City website page for the Nature Boy (specs too) and can't find anything on the chainline, any idea of where it's at?
thanks.
http://allcitycycles.com/parts/hubs/rear_hubs

The specs for the standard 130 rear hub says 45mm chainline. I assume that means when paired with an all city cog. Different cogs will give slightly different results.
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oh, i see not necessarily for the Nature Boy then. i was on the wrong page.

edit: i'll have to correct myself once again. the specs show that the standard all-city rear hub IS used on the Nature Boy. serious sleuthing is mandatory i guess.

thanks.

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Please go bother someone else.
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Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan View Post
the specs show that the standard all-city rear hub IS used on the Nature Boy. serious sleuthing is mandatory i guess.
thanks.
this is literally the first thing i said.
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Here are some better photos from this morning.
This is the wheel I am replacing, with the uncomfortably narrow rim on the 40mm WTB Nano with frozen cog on the other side of the hub.
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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet View Post
WTF are you talking about? I was trying to be helpful. Track hubs are spaced at 120 so I told you about an easy way to solve it and even told you where the parts were available.
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