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Overpriced bikes!

Old 08-31-05 | 12:42 PM
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Overpriced bikes!

i don't know about your city but philly is rediculous. junk bikes are selling for $100.

anyone else notice this problem?

ps....a lot of the listing on craiglist will say track bike, and then say...great to convert to fixie. meanwhile you are paying too much for a ****ty frame, and then you have to buy a new wheelset....it's out of control
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Old 08-31-05 | 12:48 PM
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It's a crime, I tell you. Hunt 'em down like dogs.

Or just don't buy 'em.
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Old 08-31-05 | 12:50 PM
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new york has some very overpriced bikes too. some people want almost as much as the bike cost when it was new. it brings me great pain to search craigslist and see nice but not great stuff for over a grand. are these bikes even selling??
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Old 08-31-05 | 01:06 PM
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thats the thing....they are selling.

i'm not talking about nice bikes though. i'm talking about bike that you caould get at a yardsale in the suburbs for $15. those are the ones selling for over $100.
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Old 08-31-05 | 01:09 PM
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exactly - like this one:

https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/93258344.html

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Old 08-31-05 | 01:13 PM
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WOW

thats out of this world...way worse than i was talking about. I hate the word vintage, and the phrase "old school".

VINTAGE PIECE OF **** TAKEN OUT OF THE TRASH $4000000000
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Old 08-31-05 | 01:19 PM
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Oh yeah, its horrible over here too. The best are the "fixies" with suicide hubs selling for $200-$250. Brand new DA cog!

But people want bikes and $100 is not a lot compared to the price of a new one. Plus society determines value internally, and so if these are selling at the given prices, what can you say? Turns out that's how much they're valued by society.

Now, as a corrollary to the post above, can I ask what price people on this forum wouldn't be offended to see someone asking for a DIY ss conversion? In Boston, it appears like a few different guys are making a decent living selling ss conversions for between $70-$120. A friend of mine actually bought one of these from a guy for $75 (he didn't tell me until after making the purchase). The frame (A univega super ten) was in fair condition, no rust, and the guy had respaced the hub for a pretty good chainline and slapped on a new bmx freewheel, but the rear wheel wasn't redished!

Anyway, as I properly redished my friend's wheel, I started thinking about what this actually comes out to. Personally, I think a reasonable value for a low-end mid 70's, early 80's Japanese-made 10 speed with little rust is actually about $30. Maybe $40 if the wheels are in good condition. Then its another $15 for a freewheel. Plus you'd need a freewheel remover tool ($10), a truing stand ($40 for a budget one), a spoke wrench ($5) and a chain tool to shorten the chain ($15). So if you were going to try to do this yourself one time, it'd come to about $100-$120 to buy the parts and the tools. So, from my friend's perspective $75 is sort of a deal, although to me is a total ripoff. Anyway, just curious what others think

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Old 08-31-05 | 01:20 PM
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seriously. i stopped to look at this bike on Juniper. dude wanted $150. yardsale quality. and philly craigslist seems like a joke lately.
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Old 08-31-05 | 01:23 PM
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I fairly sure that the ross bike thing is a joke. If it isnt I really hate mankind.

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Old 08-31-05 | 01:24 PM
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Old 08-31-05 | 01:24 PM
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I have a "vintage" Schwinn Varsity that weighs roughly a ton & is already in parts (spread all over my workshop) -- for easy conversion. I should put it up on eBay & see if I get any takers.
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Old 08-31-05 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sof5000
I fairly sure that the ross bike thing is a joke. If it isnt I really hate mankind.

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yeah, it's a joke. but only because a guy was selling an old Richard Sachs bike for a lot of money. people posted a bunch of times about how it was waaaaaay overpriced, they bickered back and forth, and then someone posted this one as joke.
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Old 08-31-05 | 01:30 PM
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"Genuine RUBBER tires!"

haha, awesome. i wish i could afford some of those.
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Old 08-31-05 | 01:54 PM
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yo herst...that is a good deal.

getting a cheap track wheel is going to cost you $60 alone, unless it's used.

zempf - sell it on cragslist. they are getting way more on there.
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Old 08-31-05 | 02:05 PM
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Philly craigslist is a little crazy these days. I posted a rant a while ago about the same thing on CL of course it got flagged and deleted fairly quick.
I have sold a few of my old bikes on there before all really reasonable priced for what they where so there is good market and people are buying. The only thing I hate about selling on there is all the email especially if the bike is priced good. I usually answer the first person who puts a phone number in their email. I sold 3 bikes on there and there all sold within hours but some of the crap on there now is crazy overpriced but there are suckers buying them because it seems as though it is the same people listing them (backgrounds on the pics are the same)
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Old 08-31-05 | 02:11 PM
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Philly craigslist is a little crazy these days. I posted a rant a while ago about the same thing on CL of course it got flagged and deleted fairly quick.
I have sold a few of my old bikes on there before all really reasonable priced for what they where so there is good market and people are buying. The only thing I hate about selling on there is all the email especially if the bike is priced good. I usually answer the first person who puts a phone number in their email. I sold 3 bikes on there and there all sold within hours but some of the crap on there now is crazy overpriced but there are suckers buying them because it seems as though it is the same people listing them (backgrounds on the pics are the same)
i'm thinking about pretending to be interested in the ones where it's the same backgrounds, just to see who it is. i feel bad for the people buying these bikes. the one dude with the stairs in the background cleans up on craigslist
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Old 08-31-05 | 02:15 PM
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the one dude with the stairs in the background cleans up on craigslist
That’s the one I am talking about. He must list a few bikes a week
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Old 08-31-05 | 02:40 PM
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I see tons of Crappy road bikes on street corners left to rott then a few days later, some guy throws it up on craigslist with new tires and its going for 200.00. I don't get it
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Old 08-31-05 | 04:59 PM
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You are going to really really really h8 this

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/bik/93755313.html

Damn Yuppie scuzz,
worst part is that I may have seen this same bike (or a twin) around great jones place and Bway 8 yrs ago for the same asking price.
Its a genuine raleigh 3 speed! with a B72 seat...yeah baby yeah
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Old 08-31-05 | 07:31 PM
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it's weird how grateful and nice people are when you sell something on CL for a fair price. everyone's so used to getting ripped off... at least when you buy something off ebay it's always some other jerk that's upping the bid and not the seller himself.
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Old 08-31-05 | 07:57 PM
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Oh yeah, its horrible over here too. The best are the "fixies" with suicide hubs selling for $200-$250. Brand new DA cog!

But people want bikes and $100 is not a lot compared to the price of a new one. Plus society determines value internally, and so if these are selling at the given prices, what can you say? Turns out that's how much they're valued by society.

Now, as a corrollary to the post above, can I ask what price people on this forum wouldn't be offended to see someone asking for a DIY ss conversion? In Boston, it appears like a few different guys are making a decent living selling ss conversions for between $70-$120. A friend of mine actually bought one of these from a guy for $75 (he didn't tell me until after making the purchase). The frame (A univega super ten) was in fair condition, no rust, and the guy had respaced the hub for a pretty good chainline and slapped on a new bmx freewheel, but the rear wheel wasn't redished!

Anyway, as I properly redished my friend's wheel, I started thinking about what this actually comes out to. Personally, I think a reasonable value for a low-end mid 70's, early 80's Japanese-made 10 speed with little rust is actually about $30. Maybe $40 if the wheels are in good condition. Then its another $15 for a freewheel. Plus you'd need a freewheel remover tool ($10), a truing stand ($40 for a budget one), a spoke wrench ($5) and a chain tool to shorten the chain ($15). So if you were going to try to do this yourself one time, it'd come to about $100-$120 to buy the parts and the tools. So, from my friend's perspective $75 is sort of a deal, although to me is a total ripoff. Anyway, just curious what others think
Funny, as I was reading this, I was thinking of the shop in JP that had a completebike w/ big frame I was thinking about trying to get, when I knew even less about bikes than I do now, but he said he could build it and get it running for 300 bones. which means new chain, maybe, cables and brake pads, maybe some grease. On the fuggin bars there was a tag the said "FREE."
Make some money b/c you are storing the bike, or b/c you use your time to find these cheapies. But that markup ain't coming out of my pocket.
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Old 08-31-05 | 08:32 PM
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That is classic satire- a CL gem.
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Old 08-31-05 | 08:36 PM
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i'm sorry but the guy selling that bike is a ******.
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That is classic satire- a CL gem.
Loving this line:
Women's frame for easy mounting and dismounting!

Salesmanship at it's best
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