Overpriced bikes!
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Bikes: '04 Fuji Track, 80's Schwinn Prelude (conversion), Nishiki Linear TT Bike, 80's Raleigh BMX
Overpriced bikes!
i don't know about your city but philly is rediculous. junk bikes are selling for $100.
anyone else notice this problem?
ps....a lot of the listing on craiglist will say track bike, and then say...great to convert to fixie. meanwhile you are paying too much for a ****ty frame, and then you have to buy a new wheelset....it's out of control
anyone else notice this problem?
ps....a lot of the listing on craiglist will say track bike, and then say...great to convert to fixie. meanwhile you are paying too much for a ****ty frame, and then you have to buy a new wheelset....it's out of control
#3
new york has some very overpriced bikes too. some people want almost as much as the bike cost when it was new. it brings me great pain to search craigslist and see nice but not great stuff for over a grand. are these bikes even selling??
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thats the thing....they are selling.
i'm not talking about nice bikes though. i'm talking about bike that you caould get at a yardsale in the suburbs for $15. those are the ones selling for over $100.
i'm not talking about nice bikes though. i'm talking about bike that you caould get at a yardsale in the suburbs for $15. those are the ones selling for over $100.
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WOW
thats out of this world...way worse than i was talking about. I hate the word vintage, and the phrase "old school".
VINTAGE PIECE OF **** TAKEN OUT OF THE TRASH $4000000000
thats out of this world...way worse than i was talking about. I hate the word vintage, and the phrase "old school".
VINTAGE PIECE OF **** TAKEN OUT OF THE TRASH $4000000000
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From: jamaica plain, ma
Oh yeah, its horrible over here too. The best are the "fixies" with suicide hubs selling for $200-$250. Brand new DA cog!
But people want bikes and $100 is not a lot compared to the price of a new one. Plus society determines value internally, and so if these are selling at the given prices, what can you say? Turns out that's how much they're valued by society.
Now, as a corrollary to the post above, can I ask what price people on this forum wouldn't be offended to see someone asking for a DIY ss conversion? In Boston, it appears like a few different guys are making a decent living selling ss conversions for between $70-$120. A friend of mine actually bought one of these from a guy for $75 (he didn't tell me until after making the purchase). The frame (A univega super ten) was in fair condition, no rust, and the guy had respaced the hub for a pretty good chainline and slapped on a new bmx freewheel, but the rear wheel wasn't redished!
Anyway, as I properly redished my friend's wheel, I started thinking about what this actually comes out to. Personally, I think a reasonable value for a low-end mid 70's, early 80's Japanese-made 10 speed with little rust is actually about $30. Maybe $40 if the wheels are in good condition. Then its another $15 for a freewheel. Plus you'd need a freewheel remover tool ($10), a truing stand ($40 for a budget one), a spoke wrench ($5) and a chain tool to shorten the chain ($15). So if you were going to try to do this yourself one time, it'd come to about $100-$120 to buy the parts and the tools. So, from my friend's perspective $75 is sort of a deal, although to me is a total ripoff. Anyway, just curious what others think
But people want bikes and $100 is not a lot compared to the price of a new one. Plus society determines value internally, and so if these are selling at the given prices, what can you say? Turns out that's how much they're valued by society.
Now, as a corrollary to the post above, can I ask what price people on this forum wouldn't be offended to see someone asking for a DIY ss conversion? In Boston, it appears like a few different guys are making a decent living selling ss conversions for between $70-$120. A friend of mine actually bought one of these from a guy for $75 (he didn't tell me until after making the purchase). The frame (A univega super ten) was in fair condition, no rust, and the guy had respaced the hub for a pretty good chainline and slapped on a new bmx freewheel, but the rear wheel wasn't redished!
Anyway, as I properly redished my friend's wheel, I started thinking about what this actually comes out to. Personally, I think a reasonable value for a low-end mid 70's, early 80's Japanese-made 10 speed with little rust is actually about $30. Maybe $40 if the wheels are in good condition. Then its another $15 for a freewheel. Plus you'd need a freewheel remover tool ($10), a truing stand ($40 for a budget one), a spoke wrench ($5) and a chain tool to shorten the chain ($15). So if you were going to try to do this yourself one time, it'd come to about $100-$120 to buy the parts and the tools. So, from my friend's perspective $75 is sort of a deal, although to me is a total ripoff. Anyway, just curious what others think
Last edited by herst; 08-31-05 at 01:36 PM.
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Originally Posted by sof5000
I fairly sure that the ross bike thing is a joke. If it isnt I really hate mankind.
xvx
xvx
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yo herst...that is a good deal.
getting a cheap track wheel is going to cost you $60 alone, unless it's used.
zempf - sell it on cragslist. they are getting way more on there.
getting a cheap track wheel is going to cost you $60 alone, unless it's used.
zempf - sell it on cragslist. they are getting way more on there.
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Philly craigslist is a little crazy these days. I posted a rant a while ago about the same thing on CL of course it got flagged and deleted fairly quick.
I have sold a few of my old bikes on there before all really reasonable priced for what they where so there is good market and people are buying. The only thing I hate about selling on there is all the email especially if the bike is priced good. I usually answer the first person who puts a phone number in their email. I sold 3 bikes on there and there all sold within hours but some of the crap on there now is crazy overpriced but there are suckers buying them because it seems as though it is the same people listing them (backgrounds on the pics are the same)
I have sold a few of my old bikes on there before all really reasonable priced for what they where so there is good market and people are buying. The only thing I hate about selling on there is all the email especially if the bike is priced good. I usually answer the first person who puts a phone number in their email. I sold 3 bikes on there and there all sold within hours but some of the crap on there now is crazy overpriced but there are suckers buying them because it seems as though it is the same people listing them (backgrounds on the pics are the same)
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Originally Posted by Mattlikesbikes
Philly craigslist is a little crazy these days. I posted a rant a while ago about the same thing on CL of course it got flagged and deleted fairly quick.
I have sold a few of my old bikes on there before all really reasonable priced for what they where so there is good market and people are buying. The only thing I hate about selling on there is all the email especially if the bike is priced good. I usually answer the first person who puts a phone number in their email. I sold 3 bikes on there and there all sold within hours but some of the crap on there now is crazy overpriced but there are suckers buying them because it seems as though it is the same people listing them (backgrounds on the pics are the same)
I have sold a few of my old bikes on there before all really reasonable priced for what they where so there is good market and people are buying. The only thing I hate about selling on there is all the email especially if the bike is priced good. I usually answer the first person who puts a phone number in their email. I sold 3 bikes on there and there all sold within hours but some of the crap on there now is crazy overpriced but there are suckers buying them because it seems as though it is the same people listing them (backgrounds on the pics are the same)
#18
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From: New York City (Uptown)
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I see tons of Crappy road bikes on street corners left to rott then a few days later, some guy throws it up on craigslist with new tires and its going for 200.00. I don't get it
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You are going to really really really h8 this
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/bik/93755313.html
Damn Yuppie scuzz,
worst part is that I may have seen this same bike (or a twin) around great jones place and Bway 8 yrs ago for the same asking price.
Its a genuine raleigh 3 speed! with a B72 seat...yeah baby yeah
https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/bik/93755313.html
Damn Yuppie scuzz,
worst part is that I may have seen this same bike (or a twin) around great jones place and Bway 8 yrs ago for the same asking price.
Its a genuine raleigh 3 speed! with a B72 seat...yeah baby yeah
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it's weird how grateful and nice people are when you sell something on CL for a fair price. everyone's so used to getting ripped off... at least when you buy something off ebay it's always some other jerk that's upping the bid and not the seller himself.
#21
Originally Posted by herst
Oh yeah, its horrible over here too. The best are the "fixies" with suicide hubs selling for $200-$250. Brand new DA cog!
But people want bikes and $100 is not a lot compared to the price of a new one. Plus society determines value internally, and so if these are selling at the given prices, what can you say? Turns out that's how much they're valued by society.
Now, as a corrollary to the post above, can I ask what price people on this forum wouldn't be offended to see someone asking for a DIY ss conversion? In Boston, it appears like a few different guys are making a decent living selling ss conversions for between $70-$120. A friend of mine actually bought one of these from a guy for $75 (he didn't tell me until after making the purchase). The frame (A univega super ten) was in fair condition, no rust, and the guy had respaced the hub for a pretty good chainline and slapped on a new bmx freewheel, but the rear wheel wasn't redished!
Anyway, as I properly redished my friend's wheel, I started thinking about what this actually comes out to. Personally, I think a reasonable value for a low-end mid 70's, early 80's Japanese-made 10 speed with little rust is actually about $30. Maybe $40 if the wheels are in good condition. Then its another $15 for a freewheel. Plus you'd need a freewheel remover tool ($10), a truing stand ($40 for a budget one), a spoke wrench ($5) and a chain tool to shorten the chain ($15). So if you were going to try to do this yourself one time, it'd come to about $100-$120 to buy the parts and the tools. So, from my friend's perspective $75 is sort of a deal, although to me is a total ripoff. Anyway, just curious what others think
But people want bikes and $100 is not a lot compared to the price of a new one. Plus society determines value internally, and so if these are selling at the given prices, what can you say? Turns out that's how much they're valued by society.
Now, as a corrollary to the post above, can I ask what price people on this forum wouldn't be offended to see someone asking for a DIY ss conversion? In Boston, it appears like a few different guys are making a decent living selling ss conversions for between $70-$120. A friend of mine actually bought one of these from a guy for $75 (he didn't tell me until after making the purchase). The frame (A univega super ten) was in fair condition, no rust, and the guy had respaced the hub for a pretty good chainline and slapped on a new bmx freewheel, but the rear wheel wasn't redished!
Anyway, as I properly redished my friend's wheel, I started thinking about what this actually comes out to. Personally, I think a reasonable value for a low-end mid 70's, early 80's Japanese-made 10 speed with little rust is actually about $30. Maybe $40 if the wheels are in good condition. Then its another $15 for a freewheel. Plus you'd need a freewheel remover tool ($10), a truing stand ($40 for a budget one), a spoke wrench ($5) and a chain tool to shorten the chain ($15). So if you were going to try to do this yourself one time, it'd come to about $100-$120 to buy the parts and the tools. So, from my friend's perspective $75 is sort of a deal, although to me is a total ripoff. Anyway, just curious what others think
Make some money b/c you are storing the bike, or b/c you use your time to find these cheapies. But that markup ain't coming out of my pocket.
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