van - not vin, it's van dessel
09-24-05 | 01:29 PM
#1
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 769
Likes: 288
From: Imperial Beach, CA
Bikes: GT Pulse Track, 93 Bridgestone XO-1, Ritchey Swiss Cross, Ritchey Road Logic, Yoshi Konno/3Rensho Specialized Allez, Toyo-Rivendell Atlantis
van - not vin, it's van dessel
09-24-05 | 02:52 PM
#4
Retrogrouch in Training
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 5,484
Likes: 1
From: Knee-deep in the day-to-day
09-25-05 | 07:55 AM
#7
knucklehead
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
From: East Village, NYC
Bikes: Rocky MT Track, Vivalo, Pista Concept, De Bernardi Track
looks like similar tubes as a Fuji Track Pro. Fuji's US H-Q is pretty close to Van Dessel's....
09-25-05 | 03:12 PM
#9
Physics Junkie
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 318
Likes: 0
From: Cambridge, MA
Bikes: Surly Steamroller, GT Pulse, Specialized S-Works E5
I'd really like to know how you tell that the welds are good or not from that crappy photo. Or are you just complaining that they haven't been smoothed (a la Bianchi Pista Concept) and made to look nice?
It seems like most (welded) aluminum frames have rather beefy (butch, even) welds that aren't very pretty. Certainly my aluminum bikes have different looking (read: larger, not sanded down much) welds than the rather small and smooth ones on my Steamroller, but I always thought that the width of the weld (along with the diameter of the tubing) is one of the differences between steel and aluminum.
Anyway, I wouldn't be reading much into this yet...if that photo is real, the bike is likely a pre-production model. The final frameset could be significantly different/improved - Van Dessel seems to put out some quality bikes, and even the Country Road Bob's welds look "nicer" than what you see in that picture.
D-Dub - perhaps you can give us some insight into the differences (if any) between aluminum and steel welds?
It seems like most (welded) aluminum frames have rather beefy (butch, even) welds that aren't very pretty. Certainly my aluminum bikes have different looking (read: larger, not sanded down much) welds than the rather small and smooth ones on my Steamroller, but I always thought that the width of the weld (along with the diameter of the tubing) is one of the differences between steel and aluminum.
Anyway, I wouldn't be reading much into this yet...if that photo is real, the bike is likely a pre-production model. The final frameset could be significantly different/improved - Van Dessel seems to put out some quality bikes, and even the Country Road Bob's welds look "nicer" than what you see in that picture.
D-Dub - perhaps you can give us some insight into the differences (if any) between aluminum and steel welds?
