I know there is some info on this topic floating around here, but its easier to just ask. I recently purchased a set of Phil SLR single fixed hubs, and went to the LBS to have them built up. I asked for 3x drive/1x non-drive and 2x on the front.

So, today I got a first look at the rear wheel, and on the rear he laced the drive side 2x and the non-drive radial. I really can't afford to break a wheel and replace it. Will this lacing pattern be strong enough? Also, on top of that I asked the spokes be DT revolutions, but at first glance they appeared to be DT champions. Should I ask the owner about this? Thanks guys and gals.

how much do you weigh?

even if it will be ok, you should get what you asked for.

if you didn't get what you asked for, go back and get it fixed. If you paid for revs and only got champions, he took you for about $.75-1 per spoke. Champs are straight gauge. Comps are butted. Revs have super thin butted sections.

how many holes and how heavy are you? is this a street or track-only wheel?
Personally I wouldn't expect a 2x/radial rear to stand up to the riding I do.

Then again, I wouldn't build a rear wheel with Revs either.

that's total crap, did you get that done in columbus? i'd be furious.

im about 155-160. they'll be street use mostly. also, my mistake, they appeared to be competitions not champions.

they were built in columbus at baer wheels, and i really like Dave there, so id hate so make him rebuild them.

also both wheels are 32

Like him or not, if he's cool, he'll appreciate you coming back to let him fix his mistake instead of just bad-mouthing him to the rest of the town. Do the stand-up thing and let him know that he may have eff'ed up.

if its not what you want you'll regret it later

i dont mind the lacing pattern and i dont mind the cheaper spokes.

just as long as the wheel will be as strong as what i had wanted, it doesnt bust up the Phil hubs, and i get some sort of refund on differnt spokes. i really would like to avoid having the wheels rebuilt, since i just got the frame today and don't really want to wait another week to ride the damned thing.

why did you pick Revs?
I thought they were a front-wheel-for-light-riders-on-race-wheels-only-or-at-least-not-on-the-drive-side type of spoke. maybe he did you a favor.

maybe he did do me a favor, but i feel like he shouldve told me that when i put in the order. is that too much to ask? not to bash, but i did give him the hubs around the end of may, so i think he wasn't rushed to get these done.

huh, huh, different spokes.

don't get me wrong. I'm agreeing with you.
sounds like he f'd up. maybe he forgot what you asked for in the last 5 months?
go talk to him

ok so my real question is... is the radial non-drive lacing ok for hard street riding, not rough riding, but i like to sprint and ride hard.

5 months for a wheel build???

i told him it was no rush, i just got the frame today. but still, no excuse to not do what i asked.

seriously.

I'm surprised that the shop even took the hubs/etc. in for the build. Things get lost, people forget, you could move away, etc.

how dare i move away and forget a pair of Phil hubs. thats grounds for a beating.

plus it was just a wheel build, and when i said take your time, i was thinking maybe 4 weeks time.

Pick up a caliper and measure the spokes. If the mid-section is 2mm, they're champions, if it's 1,8, then competitions and 1,5 is revo. If I asked for revo's and got champions, I'd have the guy rebuild the wheel(s). Maybe have the front rebuilt and get refund for the rear.
BTW, I think I'll have revo's in my next rear wheel. In a symmetrical 3x lacing, they should hold up.

in fact, i borrowed the caliper from work, just for that porpose.

What would a dolphin know about builiding wheels?

I raced/rode mtn @ 175 lbs. on a 2X drive side / radial non-drive for 2 years with few issues. You should be fine with 3X/1X.

3x/1x is what i wanted, but he laced them 2x/radial. After reading some articles, maybe the radial NDS isn't that big of a deal. I just didn't want to buy new wheels next spring.