if you stay off of streets like atlantic and flatbush it's super chill and inviting. atlantic and flatbush are fun to ride too, if you're lookin for that sorta thing. its super easy to get around brooklyn on bikes.

yeah, brooklyn is great. although, i fear what's going to happen within the next 5-10 years. there seems to be an awful lot of attention focused here lately. high dollar developments, mega commerical investments, etc. prices are heading upwards everyday, and neighborhoods are changing monthly it seems.

www.couchsurfing.com

find a couch to crash on if you want to visit. haven't surfed a couch yet but met people that were in the same city as me.

mmmm, philly....

mmmm, brooklyn.

we'll see. L(crooked O)VE, *sigh* (I used to skate), maybe i'll take you up on the couch man. I gotta get out of here.

That's downtown Tim. People been saying the same thing about Coney for years and it ain't happened yet. Besides, Brooklyn's huge and like Thomas Payne says, only the dead know Brooklyn, cuz it would take more than a lifetime to know it troo and troo.

Atlanta,

Big dumb city thats hard to get around, with or without a car
Philly would be a better place, probably cheaper
and an infinitly better environment/proximity to all things northeast and worthwhile

If you have any specific Atlanta ?'s feel free to pm me..
Best of luck, I just moved a few months ago and its crazy expensive

i actually have a similar dillema myself, well not similar at all actually. Im a film student at The university of oklahoma and recently applied to transfer to NYU on a whim. I actually get paid to attend Ou because im a national merit finalist. I get about 4,000 a year in surplus scholarships, not much but hey.

NYU offered free tuition based on financial need. I dont understand that by the way, sure my income is low but my dad makes 250,000 a year. NYU has a strange idea of financial need. hmmm.

But then i got offered a study abroad scholarship to The university of london. My sister livves in london so rent would be non-existant but their film school isnt as well known as NYU.

I am torn. I have 6 months to decide though. The reason i came to OU was following a girl, but with only a few semesters left of college we agreed studying somewhere else could be beneficial. We will of course stay together.

Jam. I need to know what you did to con NYU. NOW.


I'm in the middle of applying just for *****s and giggles to see what they say and what they offer.

if you apply to the more expensive schools you might get lucky with a scholorship. i get 7,500 a year from northeastern (boston), so that's why i'm here now. it's still very expensive, but i manage to swing it with a perkins grant, fed stafford and private loans. i thought about going to school in NYC, but it was too close to home at the time (new jersey). as boston goes, it's pretty much the same cost of living in new york, maybe higher. apartments in the nu area are pretty expensive, unless you go out to mission hill, brighton, allston, jp, somerville, ect. in fenway, kenmore, back bay think 1300+ for a 2br, and not even a nice one. the city is cool though, but its small compared to nyc. everything closes early (2am), which is ******* lame. overall i like it though. you really need to explore the area to fully appreciate it. and there are a ton of schools here.

sometimes its worth it to live in the slightly more expensive city just for the experience of living there. just figure out how to save hardcore and do as much on the cheap as possible. but it really depends on your situation.

dude. you want to go to canada. go while you still can.

run run run!!!!

Somebody mentioned boulder, but if you're looking for a city, than I'd avoid it, Boulder is pretty small, and denver is just eh. I"m in a similar boat though. I'm done in may, and have to choose a grad school to do my Phd at. It looks like Villanova is going to be my first choice. Any of you philly kids go there? How long would the commute by bike be from somewhere more downtown. From what I understand, it's not exactly in the city, but i don't want to live in suburbs.

If you do decide to check out Boulder, there's always a couch here... especially for an unwed sailor fan.

Ha, I don't know about Colorado, but thanks for the couch invite. I'll keep that in mind.

I'm going to follow through on the NYU app and see how that goes. Hopefully I can pull a miracle like Jam and score free tuition.

i contacted their financial aide department about scholarship deadlines and takled to a nice lady on the phone. She told me scholarships are more difficult for out of staters but that the school is very...very generous with financial aide. Im not sure how much different it will be for you though

I am a transfer student with a 4.0 at a University and a pretty good film portfolio. I think that may have had something to do with my financial help. Also they know i am a national merit finalist, which means they know i dont really have scholarship problems.
Just ace your ACT or SAT. Thats the trick. haha

Pittsburgh here I come.. LOL ..how much is the average rent?

S/F<
CEYA!

Damn, Jam.

Well, I'm a bum, I only have like a 3.1 at SCAD and my classes now are pathetic because I'm too unhappy to go to class. (This will be a second transfer.) My ACT is decent though at a 30. I mean, if I could get a decent amount of money it would help and justify it a bit more.

*sigh*

i'm beginning to stress out.

Threadjack sorry: Jam which U-london school are you looking at? I think there's more than 20 schools that fall under the UL umbrella.

50 bucks? how do you pull that off? have 20 people in the house? i know lots of kids that have done that...

that's why i ended up in boise. now i'm trying to get back to portland and in a school there.

I need to know how one acquires a place for $50/mo.

not to be an elitest *******...but what tier schools are you looking at?
im at penn...and i couldnt be any happier....if you have any questions etc...shoot em my way

i know, i'm not partial to the east coast, but dizzamn...philly IS where i was born.

Well, I'd like a school that can teach people to become proficient writers. Anyone can write, but few places can give you guidance that really matters.

Really, I want a place that isn't stingy with the money that's a good school with decent rep.

yes tell me about this 50/month deal.

i can attend either the King's college London or the Royal Halloway.

Im 99% certain i would go to the King's college if i hop the pond because it has a dedicated film department. Royal Halloway only has only a fine arts department.

I'm in atlanta right now, going to ga tech. I hate that ****ing school. It's not exactly liberal arts so you're in the clear. but I like atlanta alright. However my perspective may be skewed because I'm still a bike newb and atlanta is the only place I've ridden, but it seems like it's about 3 miles to anywhere I want to go, but it is pretty expensive. I have a 5 bedroom house in midtown across from campus for like 1850 or so. But I am looking for a place to go once I graduate so this thread is helping me as well. However I've heard atlanta's at the bottom of the list for good places to ride, so you may want to consider that too. And the schools here, well, I don't know much about the liberal arts here. There is the atlanta college of art and design, but I think SCAD's taking that into it's fold and I don't know how good they would be at writing either. And it's like 2.75-3.50 PBR's and 5-8 guinneses. if that gives you an idea of the cost of living.

ha, I just escaped SCAD. and yes, they are buying it. SCAD has it's own brand of imperialism. The entire city of savannah wasn't enough for them. Atl is next.

Yeah. ATL just got ruled off the list. Sorry, the warm weather couldn't save you.

I'm a Madison, WI native. Just moved away to do something different for awhile.

It's pretty small as far as a city goes-- one of those places you could thoroughly map out in a few months. Nightlife and music is decent, but there's a definite lack of people in the 23-28 age range. Seemingly everyone's graduated and moved to a bigger city. So you're left with 1) younger college kids (scads of 'em) and 2) a more older, settling-down crowd. Live there long enough and you'll feel like you know everyone.

Downtown is small and integrated with one end of the UW campus. State St, the "main drag" is undergoing a long trend of replacing culture and color with chain stores and a giant "performing arts center." The state capitol is beautiful, but many condos are snatching up the views and adjacent neighborhoods. Really the best things about Madison are the lakes-- canoe, sail, fish, swim, all that. Ice fishing in winter. But it's also a curse, as it compresses and restricts the growth of downtown areas to a narrow isthmus.

It's a very pro-bike town. Lotta student commuters and year-round badasses (though people still think you're nuts for riding in snow). We've got a glut of bike shops (Yellow Jersey, Revolution Cycles being regared as the best) and hey, it's the home of Jonny Cycles and the annual Lord Of The Chainrings alleycat. There's also the Freewheel bike coop, but it's a couple miles south of downtown-- always kinda distant from where I lived.

Rent, expectedly, gets more expensive as you near campus. Williamson St. is a little pocket of countercultural-ish people, but even that area has seen a lot of rent inflation and, sadly, condo development. Yuppies. The near east side of town would probably your best bet. Expect $500+ for one bedroom apts, something like $800 for two bedrooms.

Didn't mean to write so much about it, but I'm a wee bit homesick...

don't go to dallas

You've got another vote for Philly from me.

There was recently an article in the NY Times about Philly that you might want to read. Many Philadelphians were offended by it, but I think it generally portrays Philly in a good light and is therefore good for the city. It used to be freely available on their website, but now it appears that one needs to pay to view it. Here's a text-only version from Google's cache: http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache...+borough&hl=en.

I'm currently at Drexel University. Supposedly Drexel has a great education program (I'm a technical major, so I'm not intimately familiar with the school of education). Penn is also great for the humanities, if you can get in.

No hard feeling's I'm getting the hell out of here in a few months as well. And that warm weather thing's just a rumor, it's cold today, damn it.