yeah, i've snapped 2 sets of those cheap alloy Ales. friends have snapped other sets too, always that same kind. i second the steel mks ones. or old steel cristophes.

I have cracked a couple of the Shimano 105 plastic clips, but the steel DA ones I have now have held up well. Those pedals and clips have completely destroyed about three pairs of shoes, though.

m.

i snapped a MKS steel a few weeks ago. i taped it together with weird rubbery duct tape that i bought at a dollar store. it's hella annoying.

get plastic!

no, i won't!

Do you have washers on under the allen heads? I usually try to make sure I put those on to help support the clip.

i'm going back to MKS.

Anyone seen any steel gold clips?

and yes, washers underneath.

+1 Christophes if you can find them. I've seen some that were covered in rust and were still plenty strong.

i know a guy who gold plated a trash can in a park somewhere in SF as an art project. it's still there.

sounds like ****ty art

Once I rule the world I'll have public hangings for artist like that!

while youre at it, will you please bring the diamond market to its knees?

and the junk trash bikes locked to poles and forgotten and disassembled, all painted in silver rustoleum. those are funny.

totally. they are way strong. seen some with leather covers stitched on so they don't chew up shoes. mine have been going good for the 5 years i've had them, and they are from the 70s... so thats what, 35 years strong? trustable. (i know, flawed logic, but still)

i think its flawed diction too

do tell.

trustable is in no dictionary of mine.

trustable, not a word. or, an invented word, but it does get the point across. "to be trusted" would be a better choice of words. point for you! thanks!

diction, though, relates to word choice and enunciation, not to the use of made up words. if we are claiming that this word is not really a word, which, in fact is true (as conceded above) then diction wouldn't apply as diction only relates to the use of actual words. aha, point for me.

we both win.

i'll let you collect the facepunch prize

facepunch? dictionary?

Don't worry!

Once I rule the world I'll have public hangings for words that are not in the dictionaries too.

man, such violence over simple linguistics...

clipless is for *****es

real men don't ninny biking shoes

on a serious note maybe you stepped on them one too many times and then the metal fatigued

If we kill the offending word no one will be able to use it anymore,so we all will be able to write properly.

All will be well and all it takes is a little violence.