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Old 11-18-05 | 05:34 PM
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i also find it odd that the pressure was on the clip and not the strap
maybe the straps should be tighter
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Old 11-18-05 | 07:44 PM
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i snapped one of my blue toeclips right when i left my apt. last night too. had to throw on one of my old rusted beat up steel ones :/
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Old 11-18-05 | 08:12 PM
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..Hmmmm, why not use "powergrips"..? As good if not better in the functionality department, won't break, rust or make nasty scraping sounds.
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Old 11-18-05 | 09:17 PM
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Old 11-18-05 | 09:50 PM
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the rubber ones definately lack the cool factor but they don't break, and when the scrape on the ground they scuff but never rust
And you can rivet them to the bear trap pedals without feeling like you are defacing anything.
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Old 11-19-05 | 03:07 AM
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I know generally speaking fashion > utility, but for the love of fscking christ almighty, can we all please agree to use clipless? We've amalgamated ugly cycling caps and tacky wool jerseys into our fashion vocabulary, why not cycling shoes?

Interestingly, my sidi dominators were mistaken for la coste shoes at a hip shoe store in LA.
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Old 11-19-05 | 03:30 AM
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I know generally speaking fashion > utility, but for the love of fscking christ almighty, can we all please agree to use clipless? We've amalgamated ugly cycling caps and tacky wool jerseys into our fashion vocabulary, why not cycling shoes?
I'm one of those boring 'utility cyclists' sometimes. I like shoes I can walk around like a normal human in. Is that too much to ask?
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Old 11-19-05 | 08:21 AM
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Clips have their place. Most of the time I cycle for transportation, then I use clips, and wear whatever shoes make sense for wherever I'm going/whatever I'm doing.

If I'm just riding to ride I switch to clipless. It takes less time to swap pedals than it does to lace up a pair of combat boots.
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Old 11-19-05 | 08:23 AM
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I'm one of those boring 'utility cyclists' sometimes. I like shoes I can walk around like a normal human in. Is that too much to ask?
My receeded cleats are non issue for walking, the shoe flexes a little, and they are quite good looking for being the cheapest shimano shoe in the store.
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I'm one of those boring 'utility cyclists' sometimes. I like shoes I can walk around like a normal human in. Is that too much to ask?
i ran a ******** 5k in my dominators the other day.

just ******** do it.
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Old 11-19-05 | 11:34 AM
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just ******** do it.
Don't wanna.
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Old 11-19-05 | 11:59 AM
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Don't wanna.
*shrug* good enough for me
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Old 11-19-05 | 12:28 PM
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I don't understand the guys who ride metal clips and say they do it so they can ride normal shoes. When I used plastic MTB toe clips, they chewed my shoes until they looked like they were 10 years old or had been used on a round-the-world hike.

MTB clipless shoes from Adidas, Shimano or Specialized look like normal sneakers, have a reasonable amoount of sole flex and have the cleat recessed enough (esp. if you have eggbeaters) that it won't touch the ground.
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Old 11-19-05 | 01:13 PM
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I don't understand the guys who ride metal clips and say they do it so they can ride normal shoes. When I used plastic MTB toe clips, they chewed my shoes until they looked like they were 10 years old or had been used on a round-the-world hike.

Ya, i wear slip-on vans 80% of the time and the top of my left shoe always has a hole from skidding. It's my indicator of when it's time to buy a new pair, starts out tiny and gets bigger. I think i will need to start putting a patch on the skid spot.

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MTB clipless shoes from Adidas, Shimano or Specialized look like normal sneakers, have a reasonable amoount of sole flex and have the cleat recessed enough (esp. if you have eggbeaters) that it won't touch the ground.
no offense but they're also just plain ugly
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Old 11-19-05 | 06:00 PM
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i have some black steel cinelli clips and a part of the clip at the toe snapped from pedal strike but it didn't completely destroy them. i personally don't know how people ride with the plastic clips and ride brakeless..it feels like i tied a wet noodle around my foot..sooo basically i just don't feel like they do much when i'm grinding up a hill and skidding.
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Old 11-19-05 | 07:01 PM
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To qoute an all time favorite Sk8 Movie: 'Function, NEVER Fashion'. But hey to each their own.
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Old 11-19-05 | 07:26 PM
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no offense but they're also just plain ugly
bold statement from someone wearing vans slip ons
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Old 11-20-05 | 12:27 AM
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At the risk of turning this into YAHBT*, is there *any* reason, other than fashion, that clips & straps are so popular amongst the fixed-gear set?

I feel like maybe there's something I'm missing, but I made the switch to clipless pedals from clips and straps on my mountain bike in the early 90s and have never looked back. I remember what a PITA clips and straps were, compared to the ease of clipless, and have no desire to go back to dealing with that whole mess.

There are plenty of SPD compatible shoes on the market that look virtually indistinguishable from a pair of skate shoes, or casual tennis shoes, and that I can wear into the local bar or grocery store and people won't take a second glance at my shoes.

But then, my wardrobe consists mostly of jeans, dickies, t-shirts and skate/surf style shorts. I'm not exactly on the cutting edge of fashion.

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Old 11-20-05 | 12:52 AM
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Hear hear! Hipsters must die! (only joking).

Nah seriously, Clipless and clips are somewhat different beasts and though i tend to agree that clipless makes a lot more sense in many applications this does not always hold.

Also clipless can be expensive. I still feel PowerGrips kicks clips ass all over the place in (almost?) every way and they are affordable to boot...

If you do use gear solely for a fashion statement towards others there is another qoute that might serve:

"The Race is Long, and in the end it is only with yourself".

Then again qouting this type of *beep* is kindoff a hipster thing to do isn't it...?

*Clutching Chest Frantically* OMG Help me! Get them off me!! I,.. i... am turning into... Them!!
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Old 11-20-05 | 01:30 AM
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Try going to school for 7 hours in stiff cycling shoes.
Try getting a date in those ugly ass "casual mountain" shoes

who gives a **** anyway? I switch to clipless sometimes.
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Old 11-20-05 | 01:42 AM
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is there *any* reason, other than fashion, that clips & straps are so popular amongst the fixed-gear set?
I prefer wearing actual shoes. I didn't know that was fashionable. Who knew I was at the crest of the new wave of fashion!
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Old 11-20-05 | 06:03 AM
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At the risk of turning this into YAHBT*, is there *any* reason, other than fashion, that clips & straps are so popular amongst the fixed-gear set?

I feel like maybe there's something I'm missing, but I made the switch to clipless pedals from clips and straps on my mountain bike in the early 90s and have never looked back. I remember what a PITA clips and straps were, compared to the ease of clipless, and have no desire to go back to dealing with that whole mess.

There are plenty of SPD compatible shoes on the market that look virtually indistinguishable from a pair of skate shoes, or casual tennis shoes, and that I can wear into the local bar or grocery store and people won't take a second glance at my shoes.

But then, my wardrobe consists mostly of jeans, dickies, t-shirts and skate/surf style shorts. I'm not exactly on the cutting edge of fashion.

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Yeah, there's a reason. Try pulling a 16-hour day on concrete in cycling shoes. Then do it again, and again. Repeat for a week or so. If your knees and back aren't killing you, you must've found comfier cycling shoes than I've been able to.
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Old 11-20-05 | 09:41 AM
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Yeah, there's a reason. Try pulling a 16-hour day on concrete in cycling shoes. Then do it again, and again. Repeat for a week or so. If your knees and back aren't killing you, you must've found comfier cycling shoes than I've been able to.
No locker or desk drawer to stash a pair of nomal shoes in? I wouldn't want to carry a pair of street/work shoes in my bag everyday, but I would if it meant I could ride to/from work, clipless. I have a suit, a warm jacket, and a few pairs of shoes at work. I know not everyone has the luxury of a closet or locker to store stuff in, but a person still has to have some sort of bag or backpack with them. The "inconvenience" of clipless is not such an inconvenience at all.
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Old 11-20-05 | 09:50 AM
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Yeah, there's a reason. Try pulling a 16-hour day on concrete in cycling shoes. Then do it again, and again. Repeat for a week or so. If your knees and back aren't killing you, you must've found comfier cycling shoes than I've been able to.
Are you a messenger? Maybe clipless wouldn't work for me either if there's a lot of walking to do. But more probably it would. I've been commuting to school for two years now in clipless MTB shoes, wearing them all day every day without a problem. My knees are pretty screwed up from running etc, but clipless shoes cause no discomfort at all. Mine are Adidas Synclines, but Minnrets and the El Moro are pretty similar, as are a dozen other shoe models from Shimano and Specialized, etc.
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Old 11-20-05 | 01:25 PM
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Hmmm. I got a flat about 3 miles from civilization with no patch kit or cell phone. Come to think of it....no wallet either.

So I hoofed it back in my $60 Shimano mtb shoes w/ eggbeater cleats, and it was *not fun*. Given, those aren't the world's most comfy riding shoes, but 1) they were too stiff for concrete and 2) the cleats made contact with every step. Loose gravel / debris on pavement was the worst.
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