Keirin Frame Question...
12-02-05 | 01:17 AM
#51
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From: Sci-Fi Wasabi
Bikes: I built the Bianchi track bike back up today.
Here's a random thought:
How much of the Keirin influnce is just simply shorter people looking for a quality lugged steel ride? Personally, almost every Keirin frame that I've seen was way too small for me, so maybe that's part of it?
Just trying to get back on topic, somewhat...
How much of the Keirin influnce is just simply shorter people looking for a quality lugged steel ride? Personally, almost every Keirin frame that I've seen was way too small for me, so maybe that's part of it?
Just trying to get back on topic, somewhat...
12-02-05 | 01:23 AM
#52
i hate haters
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From: San Francisco
Bikes: celo europa 80's track, colnago pista, samson keirin. bite me.
i just picked up a 56cm Samson!... so as to influence... since the bigger sizes are rare, next to the fact that keirin frames are rare as it is, just makes them hot property.
12-02-05 | 01:35 AM
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From: Sci-Fi Wasabi
Bikes: I built the Bianchi track bike back up today.
I know! Where am I going to find a 58cm Keirin frame with a 56cm top tube? So I went Italian, but that's still 58/58, I think....
12-02-05 | 05:53 AM
#55
Originally Posted by juvi-kyle
I would love to see this bike, post it here.
https://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bobbes...esrs/my_photos
12-02-05 | 06:27 AM
#56
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Originally Posted by mcatano
2. The current surge of interest comes from a generation that grew up on Robotech, Transformers, Astro Boy, and a host of other cultural products imported from Japan. These products were usually of far superior quality when compared to their domestic couterparts; it's not a stretch to think that one's interest in the products of Japanese cultural production would continue as one grows older and develops new interests.
RoboTech and Transformers were a little after my time, but I was big into Shogun Warriors and G-Force/Battle of the Planets. The idea of 5 NJS bikes that come together to make a super robot or a transmuting spaceship hold particular appeal for me. Now THAT would be cool.
12-02-05 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jim-bob
Yeah, I was gonna guess Fat Chance, Potts, maybe an MB-zip, or one of those old serotta mtbs.
Ceya, your public demands answers!
Ceya, your public demands answers!
well not to get off the topic. you'll be disappionted..i had 2 Trek 830 and my last one Iron Horse but it was tricked out.
Ritchey's red compound WCS tires are awesome in the snow!
S/F,
CEYA!
12-02-05 | 10:19 AM
#58
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From: Bucktown, Chicago
Bikes: Raleigh conversion (hours spent making it look like a Pista); Porter Track, Samson Track, Leto Roadie.
Where can I get a decal made with my name on it (like e-Richie's got on his Nagasawa, which is probably painted)?
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12-02-05 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by HereNT
Here's a random thought:
How much of the Keirin influnce is just simply shorter people looking for a quality lugged steel ride? Personally, almost every Keirin frame that I've seen was way too small for me, so maybe that's part of it?
Just trying to get back on topic, somewhat...
How much of the Keirin influnce is just simply shorter people looking for a quality lugged steel ride? Personally, almost every Keirin frame that I've seen was way too small for me, so maybe that's part of it?
Just trying to get back on topic, somewhat...
I ride a 49.
12-02-05 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by chicagoamdream
Where can I get a decal made with my name on it (like e-Richie's got on his Nagasawa, which is probably painted)?
go to a shop that make decals for motorcycles.
I got my name on my UNO on the down tube.
If you want, let me know and my cousin makes them also. ( sponsored his AMA ride til he crashed before his first race)
S/F,
CEYA!
Last edited by Ceya; 12-02-05 at 12:02 PM.
12-02-05 | 12:01 PM
#62
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Bikes: Surly-steamroller-S*** Brown color
It's not the Bike that makes the rider.
Ie. people can spend as much as they wish on comonents and frames if they're not willing give it there all while riding. Whats the point. To look cool?
Ie. people can spend as much as they wish on comonents and frames if they're not willing give it there all while riding. Whats the point. To look cool?
12-02-05 | 12:23 PM
#64
Originally Posted by sohi
wow.. the finish on the nagasawa is not as nice as I would have expected for the price.
that's odd.
i think of the frame as the sum total of his nearly 40 years in the trade.
to wit, i think it's perfect. wabi-sabi, and all that! at the end of the day,
anybody could look at anything handmade and say, "foul". what is the point
of that? try to understand the history of the builder's line and i suspect you'll
look deeper than the paint layer.
e-RICHIE©™®
12-02-05 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by e-RICHIE
that's odd.
i think of the frame as the sum total of his nearly 40 years in the trade.
to wit, i think it's perfect. wabi-sabi, and all that! at the end of the day,
anybody could look at anything handmade and say, "foul". what is the point
of that? try to understand the history of the builder's line and i suspect you'll
look deeper than the paint layer.
e-RICHIE©™®
i think of the frame as the sum total of his nearly 40 years in the trade.
to wit, i think it's perfect. wabi-sabi, and all that! at the end of the day,
anybody could look at anything handmade and say, "foul". what is the point
of that? try to understand the history of the builder's line and i suspect you'll
look deeper than the paint layer.
e-RICHIE©™®
12-02-05 | 12:33 PM
#66
Originally Posted by sohi
I dont mean the paint but the bumpy surface underneath. looks very "british"
that's what i mean...
it's not about just the paint, or just
the lug edge, or just the tube guage...
gestalt?!
e-RICHIE©™®
12-02-05 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by e-RICHIE
that's what i mean...
it's not about just the paint, or just
the lug edge, or just the tube guage...
gestalt?!
e-RICHIE©™®
it's not about just the paint, or just
the lug edge, or just the tube guage...
gestalt?!
e-RICHIE©™®
12-02-05 | 12:39 PM
#68
Originally Posted by jim-bob
Agreed. A bike built by a human, even a human with decades and decades of experience, should still 'feel' like it was built by a human, not a line of angry robots.
agreed. thanks.
...and not just any human - my favorite
builder and muse: nagasawa. the man.
e-RICHIE©™®
12-02-05 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jim-bob
Agreed. A bike built by a human, even a human with decades and decades of experience, should still 'feel' like it was built by a human, not a line of angry robots.
12-02-05 | 01:34 PM
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From: oakland, ca
Originally Posted by sohi
so rich adams (as an example) is just building crap bikes that look like made by robots?
(I'm not sure I'd call ultra-clean bikes crap, but they're not my thing, personally. I like to see traces of human imperfection in my handbuilt things.)
Last edited by jim-bob; 12-02-05 at 01:50 PM.
12-02-05 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jim-bob
......I like to see traces of human imperfection in my handbuilt things.)
Best summed up with my e-RICHIE t-shirt that proudly states "imperfection is perfection"
12-02-05 | 10:22 PM
#75
Originally Posted by e-RICHIE
