110 spacing
01-19-06 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Brent at PW
We are going to go ahead and do a short run of custom 110 axles, caps, and washers for Keirin frames. There will be an upcharge due to the much shorter production run on them (about $45) if they are sent out in new hubs. Or you can modify existing hubs with a new axle kit.
Let me know if there are any questions on the subject.
Brent
Let me know if there are any questions on the subject.
Brent
01-19-06 | 06:05 PM
#27
Originally Posted by dubteka
much appreciated option! can we just order the axle kits through our LBS? or?
B
01-19-06 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chimblysweep
that's exactly how i got my hubs... a very wonderful friend in japan (thank you!)
don't reset your frame. just call Japan.
01-20-06 | 06:10 PM
#33
Originally Posted by dolface
price on just the axle kit?
They are a bit higher than the others, but we are making a lot less. Less parts = more time = more money...
Brent
01-20-06 | 07:43 PM
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I completely forgot about the axle and cone nuts...
For those in the know, will my 110 mm axle be enough for a conversion from DA 120 mm to 110 mm or will I need special axle and cone nuts?!
For those in the know, will my 110 mm axle be enough for a conversion from DA 120 mm to 110 mm or will I need special axle and cone nuts?!
01-21-06 | 12:14 AM
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12XU,
Depends on your hub. A Dura Ace hub accomplishes the 10 mm spacing reduction by taking 2.5 mm each out of each cone and each locknut. That means all the pieces are custom to a 110 hub. You can get some Shimano road cones for, I believe, 7400 hubs and use them -- they are thinner, and then get generic thin locknuts from www.biketoolsetc.com or someplace like that. All the world except Campy and the pure Campy lookalikes (Gipiemme, Zeus, etc.) use 10x1 mm rear axle threading, so everything is interchangeable (at least as far as threading is concerned).
Sure you don't want to spread the frame to 120 mm and keep the narrow slots with the 110 axle? It's a compromise solution that's a lot less effort. The hassle with 110 is that you are unlikely to run into another hub to fit the frame (other than through Brent's largesse -- see above). I personally tend to convert frames to 120 mm: any steel frame can be spread properly to the right width, and then use a drawfile to do a really nice, quick, professional job of widening the slots to fit a regular 10 mm axle. Then you never have to look back. Keirin frame manufacturers have for the most part dropped 110 -- why shouldn't you?
Depends on your hub. A Dura Ace hub accomplishes the 10 mm spacing reduction by taking 2.5 mm each out of each cone and each locknut. That means all the pieces are custom to a 110 hub. You can get some Shimano road cones for, I believe, 7400 hubs and use them -- they are thinner, and then get generic thin locknuts from www.biketoolsetc.com or someplace like that. All the world except Campy and the pure Campy lookalikes (Gipiemme, Zeus, etc.) use 10x1 mm rear axle threading, so everything is interchangeable (at least as far as threading is concerned).
Sure you don't want to spread the frame to 120 mm and keep the narrow slots with the 110 axle? It's a compromise solution that's a lot less effort. The hassle with 110 is that you are unlikely to run into another hub to fit the frame (other than through Brent's largesse -- see above). I personally tend to convert frames to 120 mm: any steel frame can be spread properly to the right width, and then use a drawfile to do a really nice, quick, professional job of widening the slots to fit a regular 10 mm axle. Then you never have to look back. Keirin frame manufacturers have for the most part dropped 110 -- why shouldn't you?
