What about something like this?

https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...egory_ID=4218#

or this?

https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...TOKEN=21940043

Where's the best place to buy tools seperatly?
or any stores in SF that i should visit?

https://www.biketoolsetc.com is good and ****

This is the exact kit the OP was looking at, with a cheap repair stand added in.

I've used that Nashbar set before. Here are my impressions/opinions:

• Plastic tire levers are plastic tire levers, pretty much no matter from whom you buy them;
• I'll bet you already have some screw drivers;
• I'll bet you already have an adjustible wrench (although the wrench that comes with the kit is actually of fairly good quality);
• The pedal/crank bolt combo wrench is great;
• The crank puller works just fine, but the threads on the tool dulled a little bit on a crank in which I had to chase for the crank's threads. It still works fine on normal cranks, though. It is also both square taper and ISIS compatible;
• The generic lockring tool works fine, but it's not as nice (or easy to use) as the Park/Pedros ones;
• Allen wrenches are crap;
• Spanners are flimsy and almost useless;
• The BB tools they do give you don't work with all BBs (I realize that would take a lot of tools, though);
• The spoke wrench is fine, but I've rounded off a few nipples with it (granted, they were aluminum nipples); and
• No 15mm wrench?! You are expected to use the adjustible wrench to remove your wheels.

Bottom line is, you're going to spend possibly twice as much if you buy all of those tools individually from quality brands. Do you really need all of those tools? Also, I'd second whomever suggested before that you buy a quality set of metric allen wrenches. Make sure you get the kind with the ball-like thingies at one end that allow you to use the wrenches from an angle (it's really useful sometimes, but not necessarily on bike applications).

Alternately, go with the set of generic / performance-brand stuff from performance bike - it's the same crappy Lifu stuff as this Nashbar set, but they'll trade you no questions asked if any of the tools fail or wear out, so quality isn't as big a deal.

Looks like a good back scratcher too.

Thanks for that good tip. I was also deciding whether to pick up a very similar tool kit, but I decided against it for many of the same reasons discussed in this thread.

For non-bike-specific stuff, Snap-on has crazy nice tools, priced accordingly.

edit... An electrician friend recommends Mac Tools as a slightly less expensive alternative to Snap-on.

i have one of these https://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

it rocks

just went around and visited clayton that works at stowe lake today. he was so nice, he taught me how to adjust my BB, retighten my front hub and all that, and wasnt stingy about teaching them stuff to me for free. cuz in other places, they just wanna get paid.

clayton is the man!

and i'm probably going to buy the tools seperatly one by one. i dont wanna end up with crappy tools, although i really apreciate the product reviews from some of you guys, its been really helpful!
THANKS!
-kev

I've heard that Wrench Force bike tools are made by Snap-on? Who ever makes them, they do a nice job.

Not only are snap-on tools absolutely ****ing incredible, but they are truly guaranteed for life. Even tools that are often considered 'consumable' like files, chisels, allen wrenches etc. I had a few old and broken tools in my kit that I had purchased many years ago (and in another state) and the local dealer gladly replaced/repaired them for me for no charge, w/o a receipt, and in about 10 minutes in front of my shop. Not cheap, though...there's no free lunch.

I also have the kit that OP mentioned. It's nothing special, but highly useful. I keep it at home in case I need to work on my (or my wife's or a friends') bike and don't want to take it into the shop.