clash of the hub titans.
01-26-06 | 12:00 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by whoosh!
if these hubs were characters in street fighter, level would be zangief, paul would be ken, and phil would be ryu.
01-26-06 | 12:07 AM
#28
i am sure that i hate you
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Bikes: 'Cha-ruzu Fosuta Orusan Kein' Fuji Track (2005), Schwinn Tank MTB (?), Fuji Royale (1979)
Promaxen f***in rock. bring on the arguements about PRomax, i dont want to hear no suzue basic junior third hand stories though.
Phils are the cat's meow.
Phils are the cat's meow.
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01-26-06 | 07:25 AM
#29
aka mattio
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Originally Posted by cavernmech
The Miche gogs are o.k. if you don't put tons of miles on em. Otherwise they are not a good choice. The adapter and cog develop play between them in fairly short order. I would NOT recommend them to anyone except track guys who swap their cogs out often. So there......a complaint.
01-26-06 | 07:28 AM
#30
knucklehead
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From: East Village, NYC
Bikes: Rocky MT Track, Vivalo, Pista Concept, De Bernardi Track
01-26-06 | 07:34 AM
#31
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From: In the stomach of a whale. :beer:
Bikes: Lemond Fillmore, Cmofalge black baby
I don't see what there is to debate here . . -the Level hub is clearly a superior design to every threaded hub (even the best machined one's like phil's or the zipp). If you want the best quality, you could go with either phil or level .. -if you want the best quality and the best designed hub . .go with level. Easy choice..
-though you could always have both.. -and use a phil for the front
And btw; for a street hub, burly is better. A level doesn't weigh that much more than a phil, and the weight is at the centre of the wheel . . -the best place to have it
-though you could always have both.. -and use a phil for the front
And btw; for a street hub, burly is better. A level doesn't weigh that much more than a phil, and the weight is at the centre of the wheel . . -the best place to have it
01-26-06 | 07:59 AM
#32
aspiring dirtbag commuter
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From: philly
when i was building my SS mtb i wanted "the best" hubs.
in asking around i got word from someone who knows a lot and has ridden every high-zoot SS mountain hub out there that, for the most part, they all roll on the same bearings.
and really what other difference can there be other than pretty machining and brand loyalty?
so between phil, white inudstries, and paul; paul won cause they was the cheapest and you know what? they are freakin sweet!
now level is a whole new can o cheese! i would love to try one of those as well.
in asking around i got word from someone who knows a lot and has ridden every high-zoot SS mountain hub out there that, for the most part, they all roll on the same bearings.
and really what other difference can there be other than pretty machining and brand loyalty?
so between phil, white inudstries, and paul; paul won cause they was the cheapest and you know what? they are freakin sweet!
now level is a whole new can o cheese! i would love to try one of those as well.
01-26-06 | 08:05 AM
#33
jack of one or two trades
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From: Suburbia, CT
Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Offroad SS'ers (myself included) have a huge hard-on for Pauls. Track/fixed gear riders love the Phils. I have no idea why. Cultural differences?
01-26-06 | 08:19 AM
#34
aspiring dirtbag commuter
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From: philly
i just wish my freakin paul word hub came with a fixed side.... it's one-sided free only and that makes ***** not as fun as it could be....
i have noticed the crazy chris king obsession over on the dirt side of things.... talk about expensive
although i do hear they make there own bearings!
i have noticed the crazy chris king obsession over on the dirt side of things.... talk about expensive
although i do hear they make there own bearings!
