Originally Posted by FixednotBroken

there's also the knuckle to the esophagus, the eye-poke (four fingers), the neck chop to carotid artery, and my favorite, the uppercut (outer) palm to the chin - snapping the head back, and possibly shattering teeth. gotta love self-defense techniques.

but really, be careful in any fight. your first defense should always be to escape.

Originally Posted by humancongereel

i don't trust that carotid artery thing. maybe just because i think of it as a movie move and therefore fake. that uppercut sounds good, though.

i don't get in fights, but i'm not a big guy, so i have to know those sort of tricks to be on a level playing field with macho, overly agressive alpha male type *******s like the dude in those pictures.

Originally Posted by tink20seven

seriously..
bad idea

so you mace the driver and what do you get?
a pissed off, 3000 pound, BLIND rolling cage of death,

if you're anywhere close enough to spray a driver,
that driver could inadvertantly run you over,
OR, hit another car/pedestrian/biker

you sure you wanna mess with that?

/.02
t27

Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer

An arterial strike can never be considered defensive IMHO. UNLESS you are in a fight for your life, and willing to kill. If one trains the amount of non-destructive ow-ow-ow one can inflict is considerable. Nerve strikes and pressure points are much preferred to bouncing buddy's noodle off the sidewalk which is what is more likely to happen on the street, either that or getting booted in the head.

Originally Posted by FixednotBroken

if you condition the outer-cutting edge of your palm, and you practice, it will work. BUT, it's probably not the first move i'd use in a situation that required self-defense. the uppercut is good, and as TRaffic Jammer pointed out, that pressure point on the lip just underneath the nose is *very* sensitive.

it's funny how this is turning into a 'how to kick ass if necessary' thread.

Originally Posted by Msngr

hey don't you work at the U.N.?

Originally Posted by andy-is-me

tie domi messenger service?

Originally Posted by cavit8

For anyone who's interested, the courier, Leah, has written some comments on the original photo blog link page.

Originally Posted by leah on that other page

Hello all! I am the girl in the pics. My name is Leah and although I am a courier, I was WALKING my bike up Agusta when the incident took place. He was driving and opened his door (while driving) and yelling profanities he threw his beef patty on a bun out of his door. I walked over to his car, and right or wrong, I opened the door and "gave" him back his food (which he MUST have dropped by accident!) He then lost it, and jumped out of his car and threw 2 large Timmies at meand then grabbed me by my helmet and tried to toss me around a bit.It was at that point that my bike lock key (that I wear on a bracelet around my wrist) scratched his car. I have read all the postings about people sympathetic to the car driver due to the expense of repairing the scratch but sorry folks, i doubt that it will cost him anything to repair as it was a 1.2cm mark in the clearcoat only(did not damage the paint) but regardless a scratch none the less. Then with some "encouraging" from some helpfull bystanders he got in his car and drove away...or so I thought! People were comming up to me and saying that I should have him charged but at that point I just figured I had made my anti-littering point and and eye for and eye with the coffee shower, I mean I did throw that patty right. But just as I was getting on my bike to ride home he came running back and thats when the photos start. He had driven half a block and decided that the scratch was worthy of a more thorough beating I guess.
Now for a bit of clarity on a couple of things...
The blonde girl is his girlfriend...she also makes a pretty good shield from an angry mob!
I was NOT punching anyone! especially not with keys in my hand! I was just trying to save my bike (I just built it a week ago!!)
And as for the police charging him....
He took off in his car as soon as he heard the sirens....they chased him down but it is not a crime to leave the scene. They were going to charge him with a variety of things including assult with a weapon x2, mischief x2, aggravated assult, etc, but the police informed me that if I went ahead and placed those charges then they would have to charge me with mischeif for the scratch.
So in the interests of good karma (and my own sanity) I have opted to "let it go" and allow the universe to repay this angermanagement case in its own way.
And finally to those who say that i must have had a sudden case of self ritousness in regard to littering.....YOU ARE WRONG! I hate littering and NEVER do> In fact I am constantly picking up litter and make my son pick up litter at the park. I just feel that it is such a fixable issue in the world today. If everyone would not throw their own piece of litter then there would be none!! What a concept eh!?
enjoy the beautiful winter riding!

Originally Posted by Nebulae

There's no way some of those photos would be that clear in an actual situation like that.

Originally Posted by Nebulae

SERIOUSLY.. how can no one tell that this is a set up?
There's no way some of those photos would be that clear in an actual situation like that. My sister is going to school for photography and they have to do this crap all the time in public.
Like I said in the other thread.. those are some of the worst "Im mad" expressions ever.