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#27
well hello there

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I like the tandem idea best. It saves you the most grief.
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#28
I have a friend (about 100 pounds) that I used to go pick up with my coaster-brake bike. 63 gear inches, old Schwinn road frame, 1.5" mountain bike slicks...on a standard Blackburn rack. It did make it a little hard for the both of us, her not having anywhere to rest her feet- it made balance sketchy. But so did the fact that we were both cracking up the whole time.
I love your idea, alot. It's inspiring. Good luck.
I love your idea, alot. It's inspiring. Good luck.
#32
jack of one or two trades
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Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
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Bikes: vintage schwinn speedster, Soma Rush, Centurion Accordo fixie convertion, lotus eclair conversion, univega sport tandem
Originally Posted by Aeroplane
www.xtracycle.com
They have foot attachments you can put on too. Plus, it can carry cargo.
They have foot attachments you can put on too. Plus, it can carry cargo.
that thing have horizontal dropouts?
#34
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From: oakland, ca
Bikes: heh, like that info would fit here...
on my light cargo bike (a bridgestone mb-1 with panaracer t-servs at high pressure and racks) I often pick up my wife for lunch and carry her to restaurants (it's too much trouble for her to get her bike out of the building during the day.) I have a Jandd expedition rack, which is one of the heaviest/strongest around, and attach via two rack eyelets at the bottom, and three hard points at the top (two eyelets and the brake bridge.) Blue loctite on the bolts, no problem with the weight (she's around 115, but I've carried 150 of cargo on that thing.)
#35
It's an interesting design idea -- I've seen photos of olde tandem designs something like this, with the "stoker" crankset/BB actually incorporated as part of the rear hub!!! In fact, The main branch of Wheelworks, in Belmont, MA I believe has a triplet designed like this (rearmost stoker-as-backpacker), too -- hanging from their ceiling!
It would be b@d@$$ if someone setup a fixed tandem like this, although I'd have no clue how to being combining a BB and a hub...
It would be b@d@$$ if someone setup a fixed tandem like this, although I'd have no clue how to being combining a BB and a hub...
Last edited by Joe Loco; 02-04-06 at 03:30 PM.
#36
jack of one or two trades
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From: Suburbia, CT
Bikes: Old-ass gearie hardtail MTB, fix-converted Centurion LeMans commuter, SS hardtail monster MTB
Originally Posted by modmon
xtracycle + converted 2speed fixed hub + brakes = perfick gf taxi
that thing have horizontal dropouts?
that thing have horizontal dropouts?
Who needs two speeds?
#37
A-OKAY! Here's a photo from a book on my shelf -- someone should build this beast!:
"1897 Tally-Ho Tandem, Maumee Cycle Co., Toledo, Ohio: The tandem conundrum- that the gentleman should ride behind his fair maiden- led to a number of adjustments, such as a 30-inch wheel on the rear and a 'donkey-back' for sight lines over the coiffeur of his lady. The real problem, of course, was the steering. Like many other tandems, the Tally-Ho addressed it with steel rods from a shaft connecting the rear handlebars to the front fork. The device was marginally successful, though it did represent the first clear battle of wills between many a courting couple."
source: "The American Bicycle," Pridmore and Herd, Motorbooks International, 1995.
... I bet you could also ride it solo from the rear seat and bust some mad wheelies!!!
"1897 Tally-Ho Tandem, Maumee Cycle Co., Toledo, Ohio: The tandem conundrum- that the gentleman should ride behind his fair maiden- led to a number of adjustments, such as a 30-inch wheel on the rear and a 'donkey-back' for sight lines over the coiffeur of his lady. The real problem, of course, was the steering. Like many other tandems, the Tally-Ho addressed it with steel rods from a shaft connecting the rear handlebars to the front fork. The device was marginally successful, though it did represent the first clear battle of wills between many a courting couple."
source: "The American Bicycle," Pridmore and Herd, Motorbooks International, 1995.
... I bet you could also ride it solo from the rear seat and bust some mad wheelies!!!
#38
here's a bit more about "donkeybacks"!
Here's one in an Australian museum... although I doubt it's meant to be used much as a derny pacer!
Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown's bicycle glossary
Donkey Back
A "donkey-back" is a setup for a multi-rider tandem, where the rearmost stoker's crankset is concentric with the rear hub. This stoker's saddle is mounted on an extension that resembles a pannier rack.
It requires a very special rear hub with an axle within an axle. Their is a synch chain running from the donkey back's cranks forward to the penultimate stoker's crankset.
Donkey backs were used primarily around the turn of the century as pacing vehicles (usually quads) for track races (a task later taken over by special motorcycles, such as the Derny). The donkey-back design placed the rear stoker back over the wheel, to give the racer on the solo the best possible draft.
A "donkey-back" is a setup for a multi-rider tandem, where the rearmost stoker's crankset is concentric with the rear hub. This stoker's saddle is mounted on an extension that resembles a pannier rack.
It requires a very special rear hub with an axle within an axle. Their is a synch chain running from the donkey back's cranks forward to the penultimate stoker's crankset.
Donkey backs were used primarily around the turn of the century as pacing vehicles (usually quads) for track races (a task later taken over by special motorcycles, such as the Derny). The donkey-back design placed the rear stoker back over the wheel, to give the racer on the solo the best possible draft.
#39
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flaneur
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From: ankle deep in the gowanus canal
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Originally Posted by r-dub
on my light cargo bike (a bridgestone mb-1 with panaracer t-servs at high pressure and racks) I often pick up my wife for lunch and carry her to restaurants (it's too much trouble for her to get her bike out of the building during the day.) I have a Jandd expedition rack, which is one of the heaviest/strongest around, and attach via two rack eyelets at the bottom, and three hard points at the top (two eyelets and the brake bridge.) Blue loctite on the bolts, no problem with the weight (she's around 115, but I've carried 150 of cargo on that thing.)
#40
Oooh boy. From the same book as that first picture I posted, found a couple of more donkeys... excuse the pun but I wonder if these ride like complete @ss?
The single-seater was the 1890 Bronco, from the White Cycle Co. Apparently it had an internally geared hub, though geared too high and seat was too far back to be rideable. fyi.
The single-seater was the 1890 Bronco, from the White Cycle Co. Apparently it had an internally geared hub, though geared too high and seat was too far back to be rideable. fyi.
Last edited by Joe Loco; 02-04-06 at 04:12 PM.
#41
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flaneur
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From: ankle deep in the gowanus canal
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Originally Posted by AfterThisNap
BTW, if you do actaually create this, NOTHING will be able to make me resist the temptation to chase you down and leapfrog onto the back if I see you cruising around solo.
#42
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fixed tandem, no cranks on the back, get some pegs or something welded so she has somewhere to put her feet.
You guys should stop *****ing about how he should get another girl, that's one more chick that bikes out there for the rest of you.
You guys should stop *****ing about how he should get another girl, that's one more chick that bikes out there for the rest of you.






