Nagasawa vs. Vanilla
03-27-06, 02:43 PM
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Can't say how all Vanilla's ride, but I'm absolutely crazy about how well mine rides. It was really strange to not do any fitting whatsoever before my first ride. And that first ride was a dream come true. I am completely sold on steel, fixed gears and custom frames. My road bike has not seen day light since November and I'm seriously considering dumping it for a custom something.
I really cannot begin to tell you how pumped I am everytime I ride the Vanilla. IMHO, it's perfection. And it looks great too.
I really cannot begin to tell you how pumped I am everytime I ride the Vanilla. IMHO, it's perfection. And it looks great too.
03-27-06, 07:31 PM
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and seriously, now more than ever i think we need to consider spending our money on american products. i don't think we've ever been at war with oregon. japan, on the other hand, well i don't think i have to say anymore.
sorry, i'm totally kidding and don't have an opinion on the bikes. they both seem great, and i just wanted to be an ass.
sorry, i'm totally kidding and don't have an opinion on the bikes. they both seem great, and i just wanted to be an ass.
03-27-06, 08:30 PM
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Get a Kalavinka and save some cash. And wait less.
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03-27-06, 09:54 PM
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Get on the list for a Sachs and die waiting...
03-27-06, 09:54 PM
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Get on the list for a Sachs and die waiting...
03-28-06, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by highpants
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sorry, i'm totally kidding and don't have an opinion on the bikes. they both seem great, and i just wanted to be an ass.
sorry, i'm totally kidding and don't have an opinion on the bikes. they both seem great, and i just wanted to be an ass.
Actually, I laughed. After a brief head-scratching moment.
03-28-06, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by str8flexed
When the time is right, which one should I buy first? Discuss.
The person who should buy the Nagasawa? He or she would not ask this question.
03-28-06, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rodador
You should buy the Vanilla.
The person who should buy the Nagasawa? He or she would not ask this question.
The person who should buy the Nagasawa? He or she would not ask this question.
03-28-06, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by highpants
and seriously, now more than ever i think we need to consider spending our money on american products. i don't think we've ever been at war with oregon. japan, on the other hand, well i don't think i have to say anymore.
sorry, i'm totally kidding and don't have an opinion on the bikes. they both seem great, and i just wanted to be an ass.
sorry, i'm totally kidding and don't have an opinion on the bikes. they both seem great, and i just wanted to be an ass.
I'd get the Nagasawa, both for form and function. Not knowing how either of them ride, and judging on look only, I'd say that the Nagasawa calmly states: "I am a nice bike" to people who know what nice bikes look like. The vanilla is an attention wh0re like a neutered male cat. If you put bulletproof cranks and crappy wheels and ratty-taped chop-flop bullhorns on a Nagasawa (not that you would), most people couldn't tell the difference between it and a much cheaper track bike. It looks nice to those who know.
03-28-06, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by sloppy robot
just curious.. does anyone actually race a vanilla? or ridden one on the track? this isnt a snarky comment.. just a question..
Originally Posted by sacha's blog
Cross season is wrapping up and it has been a great one.
First, Vanilla team rider Shannon Skerritt (pictured above) won the Masters Cyclocross National Championship In Providence, RI this past weekend. This is Shannon's first National championship win, and Vanilla's too. Yes! Shannon duked it out with the best in the national series all season and exceeded everyone's expectations, including his own...I think.
Vanilla / S+M Rider Rhonda Mazza (pictured left) Took 4th in the national championship against the best women in the states. Rhonda is so focused and quietly persistent. She is really an inspiration to me.
Molly Cameron (first year Vanilla team rider) was also incredible this season. After brutalizing the local single speed field last season (no small feet) Molly decided it was time to step up and race with the A's. Well, Molly raced a few local a races, and then decided to jump right into the elite national series. These guys are fast. Many of them have been racing cross semiprofessionally, or professionally for 10 plus years. Molly consistently finished in the low teens and never backed down. I hear stories from Molly about racing in europe next season... I believe that Molly has the skill and talent to go all the way.
First, Vanilla team rider Shannon Skerritt (pictured above) won the Masters Cyclocross National Championship In Providence, RI this past weekend. This is Shannon's first National championship win, and Vanilla's too. Yes! Shannon duked it out with the best in the national series all season and exceeded everyone's expectations, including his own...I think.
Vanilla / S+M Rider Rhonda Mazza (pictured left) Took 4th in the national championship against the best women in the states. Rhonda is so focused and quietly persistent. She is really an inspiration to me.
Molly Cameron (first year Vanilla team rider) was also incredible this season. After brutalizing the local single speed field last season (no small feet) Molly decided it was time to step up and race with the A's. Well, Molly raced a few local a races, and then decided to jump right into the elite national series. These guys are fast. Many of them have been racing cross semiprofessionally, or professionally for 10 plus years. Molly consistently finished in the low teens and never backed down. I hear stories from Molly about racing in europe next season... I believe that Molly has the skill and talent to go all the way.
03-28-06, 02:11 AM
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what i'd like to know is whether i'd go with a nagasawa road track or a true track frame, if i intended to take it around town more than to a track.
03-28-06, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbikerbrian
nagasawas should be ridden on the track. vanillas are for taking pictures of.
have you ever ridden a vanilla?
sure, you can take pictures of them, but they also happen to be kickass bikes that ride better than anything else i've ridden.
plus, as was posted before, a Vanilla came in first at last years Masters Cyclocross National Championship.
unless you've ridden one, i wouldn't say they are for only taking pictures of.
03-28-06, 01:08 PM
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Apparently Sasha is really nice, so buy from him if you are going to go that route.
River city cycles is very familiar with him.
River city cycles is very familiar with him.
03-28-06, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zachslow
how can you say vanillas are only for taking pictures of?
unless you've ridden one, i wouldn't say they are for only taking pictures of.
unless you've ridden one, i wouldn't say they are for only taking pictures of.
03-28-06, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mcatano
From a few feet away, under a coat or two of chipped spray paint, they all look the same.
03-28-06, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mcatano
From a few feet away, under a coat or two of chipped spray paint, they all look the same.
03-28-06, 04:04 PM
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True, but I don't see a custom frame as being built for those other than the rider. They do get to benefit from seeing one every once in a while...
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Originally Posted by Rodador
You should buy the Vanilla.
The person who should buy the Nagasawa? He or she would not ask this question.
The person who should buy the Nagasawa? He or she would not ask this question.
03-28-06, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mcatano
From a few feet away, under a coat or two of chipped spray paint, they all look the same.
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