Pursuit Frames and Carbon Wheels
04-18-06 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ZappCatt
Can road be convereted? It depends. In many cases, yes. The Trispoke I have in front was a road front. You can either just use the QR that comes with it, you could get an "allen key" skewer, or you could replce the axle with a track axle.
For the rear, it was actually a Specialized FREEWHEEL hub. In that case, you can run it on front or rear. If you want to run it on rear, you buy a Track Axle kit from HED which comes with a Track Axle and a chainline adapter.
The specialized cassette tri-spokes can NOT be adapted, and MOST of the HED3 cassette trispokes can. You have to send it to HED and they will adapt it and re-true it(according to an email conversation I had with them)
One of each, the front is tubular, the rear is clincher. Used buyers can't be picky
I also am not good enough of a rider to tell the difference..I had never ridden tubulars until I started buying used track/fixed stuff. I have several tubular rims, and several clincher rims that I mix and match...honestly can not tell the difference.
It might have to do with the quality of tubular/clincher that I am using, quality of the rims, setup of my bike, etc. I just can not tell the difference...so I rock what I have available.
For the rear, it was actually a Specialized FREEWHEEL hub. In that case, you can run it on front or rear. If you want to run it on rear, you buy a Track Axle kit from HED which comes with a Track Axle and a chainline adapter.
The specialized cassette tri-spokes can NOT be adapted, and MOST of the HED3 cassette trispokes can. You have to send it to HED and they will adapt it and re-true it(according to an email conversation I had with them)
One of each, the front is tubular, the rear is clincher. Used buyers can't be picky
I also am not good enough of a rider to tell the difference..I had never ridden tubulars until I started buying used track/fixed stuff. I have several tubular rims, and several clincher rims that I mix and match...honestly can not tell the difference.
It might have to do with the quality of tubular/clincher that I am using, quality of the rims, setup of my bike, etc. I just can not tell the difference...so I rock what I have available.
okay awesome. thank you for being full of useful knowledge and sharing it!
ryan - dont be so pissed man! RIP earnhart sr.
04-18-06 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by onetwentyeight
no way, that fork is just goofy enough it makes that bike for me. That bike is all "ARRRGHH IM GONNA KILL YOU CUZ IM NEON PINK"
hahha holy **** then its okay because thats the most rediculous pink bike i have ever seen.
04-18-06 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RYAN INGERSOL
wait, i insult your bastardization of language, and your comeback has nothing to do with the fact that you speak and type like a toothless rube, but instead is one that insults me for not living in your state? wow. personally, i wouldn't care if you were from texas so long as you weren't a patent texan (the hubris, the ghastly mispronunciations, etc.) because where you live isn't who you are. what's the last book you read? 'true stories of nascar heroism?' mother***, you are ********.
also, stateism is the pride of troglodytes.
also, stateism is the pride of troglodytes.
return to the bridge from under whence you came.
04-18-06 | 11:41 AM
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hey ma, git off the dang ruff!!!!
hey ma, git off the dang ruff!!!!
04-18-06 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jacobpriest
in person that bike is PINK?!?!?!
hahha holy **** then its okay because thats the most rediculous pink bike i have ever seen.
hahha holy **** then its okay because thats the most rediculous pink bike i have ever seen.
04-18-06 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by onetwentyeight
Looks it to me.. Maybe neon orange. I think its pink though.
04-18-06 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by whoosh!
i'm on the lookout for carbon spoked wheels on the 'bay, just for aesthetics. reminds me of my bmx days.
04-18-06 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jacobpriest
can road rear trispokes be converted? I know how track hubs work compared to regular hubs but with the trispoke kind of not having a hub..?
Zapp - are those tubular or clinchers? (i assume tubular since you normally ride track)
Zapp - are those tubular or clinchers? (i assume tubular since you normally ride track)
04-18-06 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by vobopl
Some of them actually have a hub, some fronts can be converted (by "axle adapters") to become rear FG for track use.
(edit) wait, wouldnt there be a dish problem?!(/edit)
04-18-06 | 02:31 PM
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You got more detailed answer by ZappCatt in #22 above. He is also right saying that the freewheel ones are the universal ones (I have never seen the casette version)
No, there is no issue with the chainline when you use the adapter.
No, there is no issue with the chainline when you use the adapter.
04-18-06 | 02:34 PM
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One thing I forgot to mention was that the chainline adjuster does not allow for a lockring. Due to the fact that it screws onto the freewheel hub, a lockring would cause the whole assembly to spin off.
They are geared for track use, but I believe some people have used them on the streets(I use a brake when I use mine on the street)
I have seen a couple cassette versions on eBay, such as this one.
https://cgi.ebay.com/Specialized-Tris...QQcmdZViewItem
They are geared for track use, but I believe some people have used them on the streets(I use a brake when I use mine on the street)
I have seen a couple cassette versions on eBay, such as this one.
https://cgi.ebay.com/Specialized-Tris...QQcmdZViewItem
04-19-06 | 04:11 PM
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ehh
Originally Posted by RYAN INGERSOL
also, stateism is the pride of troglodytes.
I thought a troglodyte was either a prehistoric being or an animal (ape of some kind) that, either way, would be unable to declare an allegiance to a state.
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04-19-06 | 04:49 PM
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jacobpriest -- my boyfriend's bike actually fits your description (pursuit + 650 front/700 rear carbon HED trispokes):
it's a bit uncomfortable for longer rides and he's had trouble w/ his rear wheel in the past couple of weeks. in fact, it sounds like it's gonna crack apart any minute now but i think it has more to do w/ his gearing than the integrity of the wheel itself? but we don't know the problem so i'm just talking out of my arse right now..
it's a bit uncomfortable for longer rides and he's had trouble w/ his rear wheel in the past couple of weeks. in fact, it sounds like it's gonna crack apart any minute now but i think it has more to do w/ his gearing than the integrity of the wheel itself? but we don't know the problem so i'm just talking out of my arse right now..
04-19-06 | 05:03 PM
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yeah i saw that one and thought it was pretty rad.
yikes about the wheel, when you find out what happens/happened be sure to share with with all of us.
ZAPP-
those people who used the freewheel adapter for track w/o the lockring, do you think they rota-fixed it on or did something of the sort?
yikes about the wheel, when you find out what happens/happened be sure to share with with all of us.
ZAPP-
those people who used the freewheel adapter for track w/o the lockring, do you think they rota-fixed it on or did something of the sort?
04-19-06 | 08:36 PM
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I rode a spinergy carbon wheel on my GT pursuit bike for a year or two.
They're fast as all hell, but you either have to have a lot of money to buy a new one when it goes out of true (which it will if you ride any reasonable distances on city streets), or you'll have to deal with it until it almost explodes. In other words, you'll either need deep pockets, or a deathwish. I guess you could also live in a city like SF where you don't have to ride more htan 5 miles to get anywhere.
As for pursuit bikes with 650c fronts, I ride a dual 700c pursuit bike now, and I'm much happier. Pics forthcoming soon!
EDIT: On the note of the adapters: They are really only good for track use (and non-match sprint events, at that). I tried JB welding one to my spinergy, and it basically destroyed the hub. They help with chainline, but they're just another point of failure for a street rig.
They're fast as all hell, but you either have to have a lot of money to buy a new one when it goes out of true (which it will if you ride any reasonable distances on city streets), or you'll have to deal with it until it almost explodes. In other words, you'll either need deep pockets, or a deathwish. I guess you could also live in a city like SF where you don't have to ride more htan 5 miles to get anywhere.
As for pursuit bikes with 650c fronts, I ride a dual 700c pursuit bike now, and I'm much happier. Pics forthcoming soon!
EDIT: On the note of the adapters: They are really only good for track use (and non-match sprint events, at that). I tried JB welding one to my spinergy, and it basically destroyed the hub. They help with chainline, but they're just another point of failure for a street rig.
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04-19-06 | 08:55 PM
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